IndyEFI500 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Just bought my smoke gun and am thinking of using hand gun bullets with sabots. I am wondering what anyone else uses. I am going to be back in my old stomping grounds later this week and will try to hook up with a guy that I used to buy all my bullets from since he was always cheapest. One thing I have noticed on the web is you don't find many hand gun bullets in 44/45 cal over 240 grains. Is that bad? What grain are you using? One of the guys I work with is thinking of using a 50 to 45 caliber sabot with a 45 to 40 caliber sabot inside with a 40 caliber bullet inside that. Seems one too many sabots to me but am curious if anyone has tried this. Looking forward to your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanictim Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I have been using Hornady's 44 cal. XTP at 300 grains for over fifteen years. I have used this same bullet in both a muzzleloader and handgun. Accuracy is good and the few bullets I have recovered from game show nice expansion and good weight retention. I usually get a complete pass through at ranges out to a hundred yards. I haven't shot at any thing further with a muzzleloader other than targets. I would not try the two sabot thing. There are lighter bullets available that will give the same velocity and probably be just a bit more accurate. I think that sabot sandwich could cause problems with both accuracy and presure. Since most sabots have a hollow base you would have a void in the middle of your projectile that would probably try to expand outward while the gas from cumbustion pushes ahead making the sabot on the outside try to grip the bore a lot tighter than a normal load would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92python Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 The 2 sabot thing is a bad idea.I am using .452 XTPs in 250 and 300 grains with black crushed rib sabots in my tight bored Omega. I but the bullets and sabots seperately and that saves on $$$. XTPs are a good choice.The green sabots are for the .44 cal bullets, the black sabots are for the .452s.You want the sabots to load fairly tight but not crazy tight. Some feel that the Speer Gold Dot bullets are the best pistol bullets around. I haven't tried them but that is the word at the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vister Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Hornady 44 cal .430 240 grain HP/XTP bullets with MMP sabots for 50 cal muzzy they jacket both .429 and .430 bullets, color code green.by far, the cheapest route, and most accurate way to load a muzzleloaderalso, quite a few of us muzzy hunters load them this way, as its pretty common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyEFI500 Posted October 3, 2008 Author Share Posted October 3, 2008 Thanks for the replies guys. I have heard to many stories of the power belts going awry to want to rely on them especially for the price. The double sabot thing just gets my what the? meter running on overdrive. I hadn't thought about the fact of having the second hollow portion wanting to expand. I think I have found many cheaper pistol bullets to tip the scale. My brain just wants to think of pistol bullets as short range but they also use a lot less oomph to get them going. Again, I appreciate the help to a nub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRH1175 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I have been shooting the TC shock waves but just about out. I am going to try some hornadays .452s this time. Much cheaper and have been a proven bullet. How many grains of powder? I shoot the AP shockeys gold and love the stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Smotherman Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I use the hp/XTPs in handguns and muzzleloaders and I don't think they leave good blood trails. The shockwaves are good bullets and they ok in price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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