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[ocf1]

I cant quote it right at the moment but in a bassmaster magazine a guy from berkley i believe said that flourocarbon will stretch more but does not have the elasticity of mono.

[TonkaBass]

In my opinion mono has more of a "rubbery" feel to it than flouro

[CALVINIST]

Whats the difference between fluoros and copolys? People definitely seem to prefer one over the other in certain situations, yet to me the difference appears pretty miniscule

[polarsusd81]

Fluoro sinks and is very dense with great abrasion resistance. It also has very little stretch. Not quite as sensitive as fireline, but still transmits vibrations very well.

Copoly does not sink, and is also quite dense with good abrasion resistance. Copoly has less stretch than mono, but more than fluoro. A little less sensitivity than fluoro as well.

[CALVINIST]

Fluoro sinks and is very dense with great abrasion resistance. It also has very little stretch. Not quite as sensitive as fireline, but still transmits vibrations very well.

Copoly does not sink, and is also quite dense with good abrasion resistance. Copoly has less stretch than mono, but more than fluoro. A little less sensitivity than fluoro as well.

Well said, thanks.

[slipperybob]

Actually copoly can sink as well. Fluoros are also copoly's with the fluorocarbon crystal coated onto the nylon. In general Fluoro's have a mass density greater than water so it sinks.

Just about everything you've heard about floro's, throw it out the window.

Fluoro's do absorb water.

Fluoro's do stretch.

Just the same as braid lines do absorb water and stretch. They just don't have the elastic property that nylon has.

[MNBassGuy]

Actually copoly can sink as well. Fluoros are also copoly's with the fluorocarbon crystal coated onto the nylon. In general Fluoro's have a mass density greater than water so it sinks.

Just about everything you've heard about floro's, throw it out the window.

Fluoro's do absorb water.

Fluoro's do stretch.

Just the same as braid lines do absorb water and stretch. They just don't have the elastic property that nylon has

I'm not saying that I'm the all-knowing expert on line, but this is news to me...

Where did you get your info from? Again, not saying there is no merit in it, I just would like to read up on that info and stay informed.

[ck520]

In my experience floro does have a lot of stretch. If you want to compare it to mono take about 30-40 yards of both and tie it to something stationary. Start pulling they both seem to stretch about the same. To me the difference is that floro doesn't seem to have that bad rubberband feeling to it. I think that the increased sensitivity that floro has can be directly related to the higher density of it compared to mono and not the stretch. And yes braid does stretch just very minimally compared the other two.

[slipperybob]

Originally Posted By: slipperybob

Actually copoly can sink as well. Fluoros are also copoly's with the fluorocarbon crystal coated onto the nylon. In general Fluoro's have a mass density greater than water so it sinks.

Just about everything you've heard about floro's, throw it out the window.

Fluoro's do absorb water.

Fluoro's do stretch.

Just the same as braid lines do absorb water and stretch. They just don't have the elastic property that nylon has

I'm not saying that I'm the all-knowing expert on line, but this is news to me...

Where did you get your info from? Again, not saying there is no merit in it, I just would like to read up on that info and stay informed.

I suspected it when I first use Trilene flouro when it came out. It wasn't until recently withing the past few years that the folks from Tackle Tour did independent testing to verify Flouro performance agains manufacture claims. Their findings was mentioned in Infisherman magazine, I forget which month(s).

Likewise how the information about braid fibers and the stretch property of those polyethylene fibers are represented by a maximum of 4% stretch before breakage as only been secretly rumored to be found true and posted on the internet.

[Cecil]

I cant quote it right at the moment but in a bassmaster magazine a guy from berkley i believe said that flourocarbon will stretch more but does not have the elasticity of mono.

I saw this quote as well. And was told on a Berkley factory tour a couple years ago. It does have more stretch but the stretch is harder to notice due to it not having the elasticity that mono has.

[CaptZ21]

I am confused and wonder if I am the only one. I need to get a dictionary and look up the definitions of stretch versus elasticity. I assume stretch means a non return to original size while elasticity equates to return to the original length when the tension has been removed. I can only speak from personal experience of using flouro under alot of applications the past 5 years or so. It has been my perception that I have landed more fish on long casts than I would have lost with mono, had much better feel with flouro, better hookset, and a much better abrasion resistance. Maybe it is mental and a result of great subliminal suggestion by advertizing gurus, but it sure seems flouro does not stretch near what mono does, is more sensative, and results in better hook sets at greater distances. All are observations and not scientifically conducted experiments.

[MNBassGuy]

Capt, you may have nailed it whether you know it or not. Maybe the the stretch factor is a temporary one, while the elasticity is a more permanent one (or the other way around).

I will say this: I'm not surprised that companies have advertised perhaps a bit misleadingly, but I think the claims have to do with different companies. For example, there is a substantially difference between 20 pound P-Line flouro (my second favorite)and 20 pound Gamma flouro. Huge difference. I wouldn't be surprised if the higher end flouros do what they claimed to a much greater extent than the cheaper brands.

[slipperybob]

Rubberbands - they stretch and are elastic.

Elasticity coincides with stored energy. I have to say, think about elastic waistband on little kids pants.

We all have been using these flourocarbon lines that are merely nylon coated lines with flourocarbon crystals, thinking how great it's been. But when these lines are kinked or stretched to the point of breakage, there has been a very different characteristics compared to standard nylon monofilament lines. A stretched florocarbon line has less elasticity and does not return to it's orignal shape as well as nylon lines do, giving us the perception of less stretch. There should also be a noticeable tear from line deformation and fray at the point of line break that when examined should show two separate materials (nylon and flourocarbon). When the line breaks, it's doesn't fling back at us like that of nylon lines do further to enforce our perception of the no stretch manufacture marketed sale. The average joe, who notices these things won't likely convince the mass, compared to a bunch of lab folks and advertising gurus who formulated these researched back up data as proof of their claims.

While the flourocarbon crystal itself may not absorb water, they are still bonded to a nylon material. In the end, flourocarbon lines absorbs water and becomes more limp after extended soak time. The flourocarbon line also becomes more lubricated when wet. Their surface anti abrasion quality when dry isn't any better than nylon as the line can get scratched up just as easy. The flourocarbon is a harder material to cut. Makes for a great leader material.

100% Flourocarbon lines - well I still wonder about that.