what fuel ratio and break in on new ice auger ?

[793bob]

just wondering what would be the proper oil ratio for breaking in a new ice auger.alot of people seem to use 100:1 and either using amsoil or opti.is recomended to use 100:1 right from the start or go 24:1.then 100:1. i still haven't decided between a jiffy or strikemaster yet.they both use the same engines.is the 2hp more stable then the 3hp.how do you start your 2hp in cold weather without a primer button.

thanks

[Surface Tension]

Proper fuel to oil ratio will be in your owners manual.

A 2 hp over a 3 hp is usually a weight consideration.

Without a primer bulb you'd use the choke.

[tipup]

Just used my new Jiffy SYX Pro on Wednesday. I mix like Surface Tension said according to the owners manual. My Jiffy has no primer bulb and as expected it took a few extra pulls as it has never been ran before. After the first start I had no problem. I am with the others, do what is stated in the manual!! As far as 2hp vs. 3hp, I have 2hp and could not as of yet let you know how it cuts as I was only cuttung 5" of ice and I beleive I would not have had a problem with my hand auger but you know how it goes I had the new power auger and had to try it out!!

[JustinG]

I have the 2 h.p. Jiffy also and it starts up extremely easy even when its -20. You will get all the details on what fuel/oil mixture in the owners manual. The Jiffy also has a compression release button on the engine which helps when starting in extreme cold. Its a nice machine!

Justin

[gill man]

I was told to run a couple tanks at a double mix in my Jiffy model 30 when I got it 8 or 9 years ago. Jiffy says to run a 24:1 mix so double would be 12:1. Now, that is with conventional 2 cycle oil. I know a lot of the synthetic stuff can be run at 100:1. I think it's debatable if you need to run a double mix of oil during break in. I don't really see it hurting too much, though I'm petty sure that mixing more oil can cause a motor to run HOTTER. I don't think a double mix would do any damage though.

gill man

[Dragonsm]

http://www.fishingminnesota.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1208774&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

I saw "the oilman" answer the question about break in in another post. In the other post, he recommended you mix 1 pillow packet to a half gallon (50:1 ratio) for the first couple of tanks for break in. I can't personally attest to that as my first auger I bought used, and last year I upgraded to a new unit that D-Rock used up at the Brainard fishing tourney. However, I am running amsoil 100:1 now and wouldn't change back to the 24:1

As for the 2hp, I only got to use it a few times last year, but I didn't have any problems with power. The compression button on the 2hp makes starting a lot easier. Slide the choke on, push the compression button in and pull, if it doesn't pop over, push the compression button in again and pull, once it pops, slide the choke off, push the compression button in and pull one last time.

One thing D-Rock mentioned to me when stopping the unit was to actually shut it off by pushing the compression button in rather than flipping the switch to "off". It allows for an easier shut down. (Something with the fins on the inside recoil not slamming back and getting knicked up and busting)

The 3hp has plenty of power, is heavy, but a work horse. (and loud too) One weird thing I noticed was when walking from hole to hole with the 3 hp, I had to carry it straight up otherwise it would stall out. The 2hp you can carry however and it remains running when you want to turn the lake into swiss cheese.

[cold one sd]

I ran my Jiffy 2hp with conventional Jiffy oil mixed 24/1 for the first season and then switched to Amsoil 100/1. It is on it's sixth season and still runs great.

[Phred52]

793bob, You might want to see what "the oilman" says. My guess is that he will recommend doing the breakin period following the manufactures' instructions, then after the breakin period is done switch to Amsoil. That way the mfgr can't balk should there be any warranty issues. Phred52

[theoilman]

This question has come up a couple of times in different forums.

Many manufacturers of different 2-cycle machines recommend running the oil double rich for the first couple of tanks for break-in. Yes, you can use the AMSOIL Saber Professional for break-in, but I do recommend using it double rich - at 50-1. If you use the pillow packs, just use 1/2 gal gas to 1 packet.