Your #1 Waterfowl ammos.

[magnum mike]

I have been a Winchester guy for many years. You can't beat the supremes but they are spendy. I tried the 3.5 experts and couldn't figure out why nothing was dropping. Then I shot a cripple on the water. Those loads had the worst blown pattern I have ever seen. I tried a few more to be sure. I sent them back to Winchester and they agreed they were bad and sent me a new case of different loads. Now I always pattern my gun when trying new loads.

[smnduck]

My Ben SBE2 shoots 3.5 fed #3 the best with a mod. choke. Good solid 40yd pattern and the 3.5 does make a nice shot string for pass shooting.

[nolte]

I used to only shoot Winchester #2 drylocks for ducks. Had great succes until they jumped up the price. I've shot Kent FastSteel since and have been pleased. Xperts are straight up junk. We had some leftovers with them and did a test. One guy shot normal DryLocks the other Xpert. The guy using the Drylocks always did better. I finally burned up the last of those Xperts on cripples and they struggled at that.

[Down2Earth]

Fiocchi 3 1/2inch 1525fps or kent fast steel 1550 with the patternmaster choke tube. I would never leave home without the patternmaster for ducks and geese.

[kobear]

Depends on the gun. It makes a HECK of a difference. I've patterned most everything bismuth,faststeel,xperts,highvelocityexperts,drylocks,federals,kentmatrix,HD,etc. and each gun is different. Often the High Velocity loads have terrible patterns especially the experts. Some loads had holes bigger than your hand every shot That said my BPS loves the old expert 2's 1 1/4oz 1325fps extremely tight patterns to 40 yd.s the ducks either dead or I missed and after 4 cases trust me I know too bad you can't get them any more, the 870 likes federal 2's and BB's, the new Nova I won throws Kent Matrix real nice. I've shot boxes of shells at paper with choke after choke and it's a real eye opener I don't advise any shell for anyone they NEED TO FIND OUT FOR THEMSELVES what choke and shell combination works for each gun they own.

[Red Cabin]

Every year I try A box of something different, and I cant shoot em up fast enough so I can switch back to supremes!

[JustLOVEit]

BEST DEAL SO FAR....

FLEET FARM : HEVI SHOTS 3inches.. #2 #4 #B's for only $19.99 right now. I grab myself 6 boxes aready.

[mille lacs muskie bum]

Has anyone shot the new black cloud ammo from federal? I bought a box of 3.5 bbb at fleet for 21.00

[TrophyEyes]

Faststeel for me. I have some Federal and can never hit a darn thing with it. I blame the ammo. It cannot possibly be me that is missing.

[JustLOVEit]

Hey there mille lacs muskie, i heard that you couldn't shoot it with an after market choke, something about how the wad is different and performs when it comes out of the barrel. Don't really know just remember someone in here had mention it. I was gonna pickup a couple of boxes today at Dick's sporting good because it was on sale for 16.99 for 3inches and 19.99 for 3 1/2inches, but then i remember something like how the wad is different. Well, hope someone in here can clear this up.

[smg04]

i heard that to on another site, supposed to get real bad patterns with a patternmaster or any other extended range choke, factory mod/imp should be alright though

[mille lacs muskie bum]

I'll try it with my factory mod. i will be sure to bring other loads in case it does not want to preform. thanks for the heads up.

[carpshooterdeluxe]

any standard smooth choke will shoot black cloud; its the studded wad-restricting chokes like patternmasters that negate the effects of the flightstopper wad from federal. i believe that from the reports i read, black cloud responds best to improved cylinder chokes. mod would be ok too i think. best to pattern it and see what works.

[carpshooterdeluxe]

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BEST DEAL SO FAR....

FLEET FARM : HEVI SHOTS 3inches.. #2 #4 #B's for only $19.99 right now. I grab myself 6 boxes aready.

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was that the old remington hevi shot, or the new non remington hevi shot? i have seen the old remington stuff on close out for similar prices all over.

[JustLOVEit]

I'm not too sure but, regular price was $27.00 per 25. So i saved $8.00 thats all i know. Plus they pattern GREAT! up to 60 yards with both my guns (1100, 1187).

[ec30_06]

My rem 870 special purpose was throwing great patterns and killing duscks stone cold last year with 3.5" hevisteel 4's and 2's with the factory mod. choke.. Might try the bigger B size for geese this year. The only place I can find the 3.5 hevisteel is cabelas, and its $34 a box. Might try some black cloud this year in the early goose season.

[2 DA GILLS]

For me is it Fast Steel #4's early and #2's late. Never change my choke from IC for the entire season. Like #4's for pheasants as well.

[Gator Slayer]

Has anyone shot the remington 3.5 inch hi speed sportsman? 12.99 a box at Fleet Farm. seems like a good deal as far as price goes.

[Huntin&Fishin]

I've shot 3 inch reminton sportsan and it patterned horrible! It's a good price but do NOT waste your money on those!

[ec30_06]

I also has poor luck with remmimngton sportsman steel and winchester expert steel. You will generally have much better overall performance by staying away from the dirt cheap steel shot loads.