The use of treble hooks

[rap]

anyone know if you can use a plain treble hook in ND? i just put a couple on my tipups last night and always thought it would be legal i guess?? i've always used single hooks and thought i'd see how treble hooks would work...

[This message has been edited by rap (edited 01-10-2002).]

[Guest]

I had a conversation with a Mn. CO a couple of years ago. He said that by using a couple of beads and a small spinner , it makes a lure , which falls within the "spirit" of the law. You could probably make a good case for just using beads , which I like to do anyway. I am not sure what ND has to say about this.

[This message has been edited by Dinosaur (edited 01-10-2002).]

[Guest]

Dinosaur,
I appreciate the input !

[Guest]

Rap
It is legal to use treble hooks in ND. Only way to go on tipups. Use small ones though, size 8 or 10. Double minnow works real well on trebles. One facing each direction.
mike

[Dave]

When we were kids (about 30 years ago)snaggin' carp down in the creek, the CO told us to go home and tie a feather around our treble hook and we would be legal.

[Guest]

Looking to see if I can get some info on how to legally use trebles on a tip-up. I am hearing from friends that if you have a spinner blade above the hook, you are ok. Is this true, and if so, how close does the spinner blade have to be to the hook?

[Jim W]

Hey ALl!

I would be careful to use just beads. You need to present it as a lure. SO a spinner or dummy lure attached above you treble will work. Try using a single hook! Go a tad larger, so when the fish grabs your shiner or what ever some hook is exposed!

Keep the rods bendin'!!!

Jim W

[Creek Kid]

I like to use treble hooks on tip-ups and always have. I like the fact that if you don't see the flag go off, and there's slack line, you have a 3x better chance of getting a good hook-set if the fish is lazily wondering around with the shiner in its mouth. I have a couple of really cheap, plain spinners that I use w/a steel leader for northerns. A plain Mepps or any big (#4-#5) would probably work just fine on the end of a leader. Northerns never seem to be too picky when there's live bait involved. Would probably be a little more particular for 'eyes though. Have not gone down the walleye road yet. I think the treble/single hook setup comes down to a matter of preference. I am planning on using a single hook setup for walleyes if I ever get a chance to go after them this year. You should feel confident enough now to use both and find out for yourself which one you prefer. It's alays nerve-racking when you're not sure if it's legal or not. Relax, it is. Good Luck!

[GullGuide]

A real good trick is to use that plastic flipper that comes with all swedish pimples. Just run the like through the hole and you're set.
Good luck
>"////=<

[GullGuide]

A real good trick is to use that plastic flipper that comes with all swedish pimples. Just run the line through the hole and you're set.
Good luck
>"////=<

[Capt'nJosh]

There has been a lot of talk lately about taking the hook off a swedish pimple and attatching 6-8 inches of mono then tying the hook to the mono. Would it be considered legal to use a treble in that case?

[GullGuide]

Capt'n,
That would be what they call a "Dropper Rig" and yes, perfectly legal.
>"////=<

[Guest]

For pike, I like to tie quick-strike rigs. This consists of a length of uncoated 18 lb wire (Sevenstrand works well), two #6 or 8 treble hooks, a spinner blade (which makes it legal), and a swivel. I tie the hooks about 2 or 3 inches apart depending on bait size, add the spinner, then the swivel and your good to go. The idea is that you don't have to let the pike run and stop and swallow the bait. When you get to your flag, grab the line and set the hook. I hook them on the corner of the lip or just inside the mouth about 90% of the time and almost never miss a fish. They work great and are easy to make.

For walleyes, I have not figured out a good quick-strike so for now I'll stick with the single hook.
Good luck on the ice!

------------------
Adam Johnson
www.adamjohnsonfishing.com

[Creek Kid]

Referring to the dropper rig post - I have seen rigs in fishing books that have 2, sometimes 3 or 4, hooks and lures at different depths with different bait. The most common one I've seen (and the one I want to try) is a jig or spoon on the end of the line with one or two flies or panfish jigs farther up (2'-4'). All of the books that I've seen this in characterizes it as a "southern rig". Is it legal in MN? Can someone explain why or why not? Would it be considered "one line"?

[SpikeRoberts]

CreekKid,
I think the type of set-up you describe is considered a trotline under MN regulations and is, thus, illegal.

[GullGuide]

On page 27 of the fishing regs it says that one may use up to 3 artificial flies while angling for trout, crappie, sunfish and rock bass. I would think that ice flies would fall under this, therefore making what Creek Kid described legal under the rules as long as only 2 or 3 flies were used.
>"////=<

[Toad]

Just like to offer a little tip at this point, for whatever it's worth. Quick-strike rigging was most effective when the European Partridge Hook company still manufactured what was called the Vic Bellars hook-- essentially a double rather than treble hook that rarely harmed fish.

For the past three seasons now, a number of anglers, including myself, have been exclusively running circle hooks on tip-ups. Eagle Claw makes a good one-- the Featherlite L702.

Set the spool tension on your tip-up (if it has one) to about 3/4 tight. A 1/0 to 3/0 Eagle Claw L702 will hook nearly every pike that hits smack in the corner of the inner jaw-- slick. If the spool on your tip-up doesn't have a tension adjustment, simply slowly increase the tightness with which you hold the line until it no longer slips between your fingers. Bingo, the fish is pegged. No need to worry about running flicker spinners or beads; no reason to worry about gut-hooked fish. Far as I'm concerned the circle hook is the best thing that's happened to tip-up fishing since the invention of the flag. Just might surprise you and make fishing more fun.

-a friend called Toad

[SpikeRoberts]

I guess technically you're right GullGuide, but really what would be the point of running such a gizmo through the ice anyway? You'd have little control over the presentation, the ability to set the hook would most likely be diminished, and most likely such a bulky rig would just scare the fish off.

Man is this forum the world's greatest way to avoid homework or what?

[GullGuide]

I don't know what the purpose would be since I would never use one. Just saying that it would be legal that's all.
>"////=<

[GullGuide]

Also,
There are times when such a rig may be needed to attract the fish, still wouldn't use it though just because I see no need to.
>"////=<

[Jim W]

Hey Toad,

Thanks for bringing up the circle hook topic!
I brought a few along on an exclusively tip-up fishing trip earlier this season. Each time I opened my box I gazed at the circle hooks, yet never made the transition.
WOn't give it a second thought now. Gamaghatsu(sp?) also makes a wonderful circle hook. I believe they are called Octopus Cirlce Hooks!

JIm W

[hawgTime]

for bigfishin20