materials

[Tommy21]

Hi i was wondering if anyone could help me out with a materials list on an 8x12 or 7x 12 or 7x10 or 8x10 ice house on skids need to no pretty much everything i would from nails to wood to screws to hinges and also very important there prices

me and my buddy are building one and also would like to no about hauling it would it be able to hang a littlwe bit off a snowmobile trailer.

thanks for the help

Tommy21

Good fishing

[cheesehead]

only you can determine exactly what is needed for your project.

Here is a start

2x6 Runners double them so you will need 4 times the length of your shanty

plywood for the walls - use t-111 and paint it

plywood for the roof

plywood for the floor

insulation

a door

windows

shingles

Make some drawings of what your house will look like. Then go out in the yard and lay out the sizes, use stakes to mark the corners. do this for one side wall and one end wall then measure out exactly how long your roof rafters and plywood need to be.

use more stakes to mark you window and door locations as well as the number of studs needed. don't forget trim boards for the eaves and corners as well as door and window trim. You will also need interior paneling (lauan is common in fish houses).

once you have confirmed all the dimensions go to the local lumber yard and window shop. record the prices of each item then head back home and start calculating.

I'm sure that I have missed many things here.

Esentually you are building a yard shed on skids so attack your project from that perspective.

[Tommy21]

thnak you that helps but would you also no of any prices

[McGurk]

Grab a Menards Flier; nothing is priced static. You may have to do a little recon in a store with a notepad and pen. The more you do before you start buying the better estimate for a completed product will go. You could probably get it done for less than $1000, but none of us has ANY idea to what level you want this built. From exposed isulation to tongue and groove knotty pine, painted OSB to aluminum siding. rolled on asphalt to steel roof, there are MANY different ways to get this done. Read more here, do some searches for posts relating to what you want. As Cheesehead said; an outdoor shed materials and price list is a good start, but pretty much no one here uses full 2x4 wall construction. Ripped 2x4's or purchased 2x2's are mostly chosen. This is not meant to be negative, but we all had to do the work too.

[Tommy21]

does anyone have any pictures of wat a wall frame would look like and how they brought there walls together and also there roof. how should i do the base??

[LaZyDayZ]

you really should follow this link of Kylersk's project.

Fish House Construction

[walldoggie]

Well as far as cost like the others said you probably would have to do some research or your own figure out the style and size you want it to be and go to menards with a pen and paper. As for design there are many good post on this forum about designing houses. I for example looked and read almost everypost on here 2 years ago picked and choose the designs i like and built from there. I would roughly say my house cost around 800 bucks to build. It was and 8 X 8 but i built it so every wall would be bolted togeter as well as the floor, in 4 X 8 section for storage reasons, this i think added to the cost a little. If you have a place to store it you probably could get by with materials at roughly 600-800 bucks(depending on size), seeing prices have probably changed since 2 years ago. well good luck and as always research, research research. NO matter what other ppl tell you they are not you and do not know your personal tastes.

[cheesehead]

Tommy,

judging by your questions I am assuming that you may have little or no construction experience. THis does not need to stop you from proceeding, if you do plenty of research.

Here are a few tips to get you started,

Go to your local library and read some construction framing books. The materials and sizes will be different but this will give you an understanding of how it is done.

Also your inexperience may cost you more in time and money due to errors. you are on the right track with asking questions so now it's time to do the legwork.

[nytelyter]

tommy21 where do you live dude. i am sure there is an fmer that lives real close by you. you could go visit with him or other fmers that are close to you and actually get a good hard look at what you are about to do. there really is so many ways you could go in your construction. drop me an e-mail. and i will give you my phone number. we can chat about your specific needs in a fishhouse. i will gladly give you some advice. heck if you are close enuff to me i would even have you come see my now 7 year old fishhouse, and may be able to drop by during the rough in of your house. i would say the only thing i would not do in building a shack or house is useing chip board. for the outer walls. i would strongly recomend 3/8s cdx for the outer walls and plan on priming them with two good coats of sealer and then paint them. ... paul

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[bigb56303]

sounds like you got alot of ? regaurding building anything, if you dont have any experiance in building you may want to start with something easy and go from there you can go online and check just about any $ for things you may use or want , check threw all the old post as may of people have built or asked ? you may think about trying to buy a used one and remodelong it then the basics are all done and you can costimize as you chose just acouple of thoughts

[Mark Gangl]

with your ? i would say your inexperianced at building....Heres what i did, or am still in the process of doing. I found a camper some rear end damage but no leaks other than that, i am repairing the back half (and actually debating installing a drive thru door for the wheeler) but point is im gutting it a little and modifying it. I payed $100 because of the back, its like 8 or so by 16.5 and has the running gear. another $50-100 in screws and supplies and a fish house is made, on wheels complete with all working apliances and heater! Just my 02 on ez, cheap, and quick....ice is coming!

[chris63]

Hello,just want to add that your runners will outlast your house if you make them from 4by6 whike oak.No need to ever replace them!c63

[aquafang]

LazyDayz...

I followed that fishouse construction link you showed. How is the roof done? What was the purpose of tarping the house when paneling the interior walls?

Do you know?

thanks...

[McGurk]

I can't answer for sure, but I'll take a stab at it. I think he finished the interior first so as to run wiring/ gas lines/ etc. from the outside in and be able to come up with conflicts/issues before insulation and final exterior went on. The tarps were just to cover between working times and rains. The rubber roofing went on then, and then insulation and tyvek and siding. Please correct me if this is wrong and misleading.

[walldoggie]

Just to let you all know and not that it should make a difference but i read on another site from this same poster. he is only 15 years old looking to build a 8x16 ice house. So probably no real likely hood of it comming to fruition, but you never know.

ps good luck tommy21, what ever happens.

[Tommy21]

yea i am 15 and if thats gonna stop everyone from helping me on building my ice house to help me make less errors on it then ok but i came to this forum for help not to be criticised on my age i said my age so that it would let you guys no i have no experience and need as much help as im gonna get. so if you dont wanna help me cause im 15 so be it but for everyone who helps out a young ice fisherman who will build an 8x12 ice house thank you so much. and i have no experience so i ask for anyone who can help me to not make mistakes to help out with everything you can i would really apreciate it.

also i am gonna read into these books on framing and look for prices and im gonna make my ice house one of a kind because a 15 year old built it. would anyone no about siding and if i should angle the roof or just do tin or a frames or wat for the roof. also i read somewhere about clamps for the roof i was wondering wat those where needed for or if they are optional. also wat to use for the interior walls.

[Mark Gangl]

well there are 60 yr olds asking for advice on here thats the great part you get answers. nobuddy knows everything about everything. Most ice houses and campers arnt peaked, if you want it peaked go 1 angle peak, its easier. check out the king crow fish house designs and other proffesional built ones and that will give you more ideas. there is a reason they make big $ selling there houses.....

[Reynolds]

I don't think it would be a bad idea to keep a used fish house in mind. You could probably spend quite a bit less and get quite a bit more. You start adding up the costs of tin, lumber, furnace, propane tanks, copper tubing, etc. and the cost can end up being quite a bit more than you had planned. As many of the guys on this site can probably attest to, building a house can be very time consuming. Also if you were to buy a house, you could be sure that you had a fishable house as soon as weather permits. And if you were to buy a used house, you could customize it to your liking. I personally bought a used 8x16 two years and paid $850. The house came with four bunk beds, six holes, ventless heater, oven with three burners, pots and pans, a jack, and even a Lazy Boy. I will grant you it wasn't the most attractive house on the lake (mural of penguins ice fishing for sharks ), but I was able to get onto the ice for a reasonable price with a fully equipped house. Like me, you will probably find that over time you will come up with different ideas for customizing the house to your liking (i.e. 110 wiring, hole lights, and so on). I don't want to discourage you from building a house. Just want to let you know that there are other viable options out there.

[Tommy21]

i will keep that in mind reynolds

thank you

[love to hunt]

Tommy21,

Reading these posts I wondered about the fellow asking the questions and now I understand that there is a lacking of experience. No problem.

Might I make a small suggestion.

Though I admire your ambition, you may want to try something a little smaller and keep it simple. Say a 6 x 8 day fishing house with a few gagets.

You may be biting off a bit more then you are expecting with an 8x12. That size house is quite an undertaking and no small task. The building techniques and skills needed to properly wire, insulate, seal, plumb, roof and adapt to unexpected issues are skills you can only attain by doing and making mistakes. I would hate to see a mistake made that will cost you a lot of $$ or get someone hurt. One leaking propane line and you may have serious problems.

If this is something you would agree on then I will help you as much as I can.

I will draw up prints, a material list, tool list and as detailed step by step instructions as I can. We will take it slow and easy untill the thing is done.

There are a few conditions though;

1) I assume that your parents know that you want to do this and it is ok with them. I need to know this.

2) Who is going to help you run the power tools like the skill saw, and show you how to do it safely?

3) Do you have a place where this can be built?

4) How much $$ are you prepaired to spend?

I want to be sure this project is on the up and up and that my free help will not go wasted. If I get 1 hint that this is going nowhere the help stops then and there.

I will be leaving for hunting on the 2nd and gone untill the 19th so if you are interested let me know soon.

My email is on the bottom of this message so send me an email and we will start there. As you can see I build these things for a living so my help will be as good as any.

Later,

Ed

[stmichael]

Tommy,

It is awesome to see a young fisherman know what he wants and is trying to do it himself. Life is all about trial and error, however, it is nice to get some information from someone that has errored, and, has seen mistakes that people have made. Love2hunt has taken the extra step and offered a lot of his personal time, this will allow you to side step a few of the common mistakes that you could make, and, hats off to him! We talked about my fishhouse a while back. My house is just under 8ft wide (so it will fit onto a snowmobile trailer 8x10) and it is 12ft long. (hangs over on the back end of a "V" style trailer) We used steel for the studs, green treated for the floor, there is carpet, steel roofing, painted 3/8 plywood on the outside (which was free) (painted and primed(discounted price)). The inside has troughs and it is not close to being finished. We still have to run the wiring, propane connections, insulation, and, whatever we choose for the interior walls. We have just about 800 into it.

We thought about selling it, but, we are going to finish it and eventually I will have enough moola to have love2hunt build me a drop down frame.

Please do not hesitate to ask questions here, this site has a great reputation, loaded with all the help that you could possibly need.

[fishinalot]

Well said Love To Hunt!

[nytelyter]

i could not agree more well said to all and i to would encorage tommy to build to the best of his abuilities.i have also offered to have him take a look at mine and encouraged him to check out other fmers houses for design ideas. my house started as a design drawn up on top of a square minnow bucket and was framed up on a cold windy day in september, by six of us from there it was alm0ost two months before it was ready for ice. then it became a work in progress for the next three or four years adding cabinets, stove and countertops, biffy and last fall went thru a remodel. i am hopeing that i am done doing stuff to it but who knows. tommy i do wish you the best of luck in your venture. and from your mind set i know you will build a great fishhouse. i am not sure where you live but like i have posted before drop me an e-mail and i along with others here can get you a good start on your project. but like also said here in your post, i did start with a used fishhouse 6x8 that was dropped off in my yard after the end of the season for $75 bucks. i went from there to an old truck camper that i converted and from there built my dream shack. those first houses gave me the doos and donts that i wanted in a fishhouse. and if and when i do build another fishhouse. i will again learn things from the one i currently have. again tommy i wish you luck in your venture. and if there is anything i can do drop me a line. ... paul

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[quackattack13]

hey st michael could you maybe post some pics of your house or send them to my email [email protected]? i have been considering building a fishhouse and wasn't sure if i should put it on runners or on wheels. runners would be ok if i can fit it on a snowmobile trailer. just let me know i am only 17 so im a little inexperienced and i would appreciate all the help i can get! thanks

[stmichael]

quackattack13,

I am more than happy to post pictures and or send them to you, the only problem is I will not be able to make it up and take pictures until after opener. I should be able to post them(send them)Thursday the 9th.