Portable fish house legality

[BIG DS]

Well...thats what the law states. One tag for each shelter on the ice. If you transport the tag to a different shelter and take that to the lake that is your business. If you have two shelters on two different lakes, for example, each of them need to have their own tag. As stated earlier, a duplicate voids the original. Two shelters can not have the same tag number. Thats what the laws say. Do what you want with it but now you know.

[PierBridge]

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One tag for each shelter on the ice.

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Occupied...No doubt about that.

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If you have two shelters on two different lakes, for example, each of them need to have their own tag.

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I can see that being reasonable. Although it would be nearly impossible to enforce.

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Two shelters can not have the same tag number.

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I believe that's Correct two shelters in use at the same time can not have the same numbers.

[Gus]

Here is text taken right from the current regs online. While I don't know if even this settles the dispute, it may put us a step closer to trying to figure out an answer. There seems to me to be two key pieces to what we are discussing.

1. Does the duplicate license effectively Void a previously issued license. To this I cannot find an answer yet. Maybe someone else will have better luck than me.

2. Does the law allow for an individual to leave a structure on the ice when not licensed and not being fished out of. I derrived this statement from what we are trying to do here which is determine if you need to have two complete (not duplicate) tags on two shelters even when only using one at a time. IE, you can only be in one place at a time. This would be the case if you were to say fish out of a portable on the same licnese as you have on your permanant house. You are only fishing out of one house, but using one tag effectivly makes the other one void at the same time. (All of this assuming that #1 is not true)

Now the text:

•All shelters,which include dark houses,fish houses,and portable

shelters,placed on the ice of Minnesota waters must have the

complete name and address or driver ’s license number or Minnesota

DNR number of the owner plainly and legibly displayed on the

outside in letters,and figures at least 2 inches in height.Dark houses,

fish houses,and portable shelters placed on the ice for shelter while

fishing must be licensed,except that a license is not required on

border waters with Wisconsin,Iowa,North and South Dakota.A

tag, furnished with the license,must be attached to the exterior in a

readily visible location.

This seems to be the key to me: "portable shelters placed on the ice for shelter while

fishing must be licensed" To me this says that a fish house can be left unlicensed if it is not being currently fished out of. This MAY make our topic legal assuming the outcome of issue # 1 makes using a duplicate tag legal. Of course I think all of this is up to the CO to enforce and he/she will have to interepet the laws as they see fit as well.

So can anyone find any language to help decide question #1?

This is very interesting to me because last year like I stated earlier in the thread, I was told I was legal to do just this right from the DNR license agent that I called to question the tags I was sent in the mail. I don't want to doubt anyone on this thread. Just get to the bottom of the issue and find an accurate answer.

[CRAPPIEBAIT]

GUS,I had 3 traps with me at the same time and fishing out of my yukon.I asked & showed a CONSERVATION OFFICER that I had bought duplicate tags.I explained I wanted him to clarify if I was legal or illegal.He told me I was perfectly fine and there was no laws being broke that he could tell me of.

So to tally this up,we have an agent on the board who disagrees,an FM'ER who has talked to an agent and said it was fine & myself having asked a CO who told me I was legal.

Sooo...... I wonder why a portable should even be licensed if it comes home with you each time.

[BIG DS]

Rather than arguing about the statements I have made in this thread, if anyone has a question, call the DNR help desk at toll free, 1-877-348-0498.

ANY shelter that goes on the ice for any reason needs to be licensed. It does not matter if it is occupied or not, it still needs a license.

That's all I'm going to say.

[WAG416]

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shelter that goes on the ice for any reason needs to be licensed. It does not matter if it is occupied or not, it still needs a license.

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Yes it does matter if its occupied or not. If it aint be fished in, it dont need a shelter tag. And it can sit on the ice as long as time allows.

Pierbridge and Gus have pretty much summed this whole ordeal up with there posts.

Thats all I am going to say.

WAG

[ChuckN]

I hate beating a dead horse, but I did ask the DNR this very same question and I hold the answer in writing in my tackle box if a CO ever asked.

I have a portable and a permanent house.

I only need 1 shelter license as long as I do not use both of them simutaniously.

It is the law to display your full name and address, or DNR# or Driver's license # on the house at all times. Not necessarily your shelter tag (while fishing it must be displayed).

[Mark Christianson]

The best for every person is to do what BIG DS said.

Call the DNR.

Asking questions about most things is usually a great thing to do here on FM.

But don't ask a question about legality of things, and take the answers that you find here as gospel.

Call the DNR and get it first hand.

I have seen many topics go on for pages on here with people arguing what their personal view of a regulation means.

Not good. Call the people that know to save yourself some possible trouble.

Pretty simple.

[PierBridge]

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The best for every person is to do what BIG DS said.

Call the DNR.

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Calling the DNR IMO would produce multiple answers by multiple employees this has been proven in the past. Those of us who are/were concerned have contacted and asked CO's from the area about this matter.

And quite Frankly I don't care if Bud Grant, Ron Sando, or Paul Bunyan tells me I have to have a shelter tag on all 6 of my portables even though I only use 1 at a time, it's not going to happen.

[Walterwontfalter]

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Yes it does matter if its occupied or not. If it aint be fished in, it dont need a shelter tag. And it can sit on the ice as long as time allows.

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Judging by the text posted earlier it says;

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Dark houses,

fish houses,and portable shelters placed on the ice

for shelter while fishing

must be licensed

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If you ever plan on fishing out of that shelter it's placed there for fishing.

[WAG416]

ok

[SXViper]

BIG DS,

I di what you said, I contacted the MN DNR. I was told the shelter only needs to have a sheler license when being used as a sheler for FISHING. I was also told you CAN buy one shelter license and as many duplicates as you want, and put them an as many shelters as you want. But you can only use one of those shelters at a time. So you may want to contact the DNR and get this straightened out seeing as you are a licenseing agent.

Brian