2014 NoDak Waterfowl Reports

[Todd Caswell]

For some reason this year it seems a lot more land is posted and when contacting the owner, permission was denied on a regular basis. Not sure if it has to do with the measure 5 amendment? They sure spend a lot of time and a lot oney on posted signs!

And it will only get worse, never heard another shot fired in Canada in 5 days, and the cost is very close my

[fish_hunt_guy]

Todd do you ever shoot any birds with color up there or is pretty much brown duck after brown duck?

[TylerS]

I don't think posted lands have anything to do with Measure 5. I've been hunting Nodak since 2000, and it's gotten progressively worse every year. Between the outfitters locking up land, hunters getting to know landowners and locking up land for them, and dingleberries not contacting landowners but throwing up posted signs anyway, well, what you see is what you get.

That's why I stopped hunting fields. Lots of public water. It's the way to go when every Tom, Dick and Harry is clamoring over a depleting number of huntable fields.

[CANOPY SAM]

For some reason this year it seems a lot more land is posted and when contacting the owner, permission was denied on a regular basis. Not sure if it has to do with the measure 5 amendment? They sure spend a lot of time and a lot oney on posted signs!

I noticed the same thing, mulefarm. But not just the presence of more posted land. I also clearly noticed a marked change in opinion, by local folks, toward non-resident hunters.

Only a handful of years back 99% of the local people I knew in central NoDak, and even farmers I didn't know, were very accommodating and friendly toward non-resident hunters. Driving around the countryside it was actually pretty rare to come across a No Trespassing sign.

With this last outing I was pretty surprised to see so much land posted up, and even more disappointed by the general attitude of local landowners, and business owners, toward non-resident hunters. I stopped at a local establishment to pick up some beverages and a guy inside saw me and actually started hollering about how..."no non-resident hunter is EVER going to set foot on MY LAND!"

Where we used to be warmly welcomed by very kind people, we are now looked at like infidels.

I'm not sure when, or why this has happened, or what is driving this attitude, but it's definitely a different place then it was just 5 or 10 years ago. Pretty sad.

[Todd Caswell]

Todd do you ever shoot any birds with color up there or is pretty much brown duck after brown duck?

No we shoot some birds that are colored up, I'm not real big on only shooting drakes so doesn't really matter to me if they look pretty or not

[brittman]

I have hunted ND for almost 40 years straight with half or more as a NR.

I can tell you that some of the comments noted above are local / regional. No hunting signs have been common forever in ND and I really do not see a large difference between the 1990s and today. Guides and outfitters come and go, heavy posting comes and goes. One area becomes worse, while another subsides. I travel and/or hunt across many, many counties in ND. Corner to corner and in the middle too.

The later in the season you head to ND (closer to deer season) the more posting signs you will see. I have hunted an area that is maybe 50% posted for youth waterfowl, 75% posted if in pheasant country and 90% posted after November 1.

You can always ask ...

[TylerS]

I hear ya Brittman. I guess it pays to expand your area of comfort, eh?

I do know one thing: After deer season and once the fear of someone spooking out "a landowner's big buck," getting on land gets a lot easier.

[CANOPY SAM]

Yeah. I was also thinking this had more to do with the deer season so close, but it really didn't explain the obvious change in attitude about non-resident hunters.

Regional? I'm not so sure about that.

Our family land really isn't in a "flyway" so to speak. We're smack dab between the Missouri flyway, and the flight route thru Devils Lake. Not everyone we met were crabby. Many were still salt of the earth folks, and very friendly. But we certainly met more people who wanted nothing to do with us. I'm not surprised. Just kind of disappointed. I've met more then my share of non-resident slob hunters out there, and I can only imagine what the landowners go thru each year. I suppose some of this should be expected.

On another note...what are folks seeing out there today? Pretty big front rolled thru pushing north/northwest winds, rain and snow out of Canada. I'd expect some new birds in with this weather.

[Roosterslayer05]

The funny thing is that most of the time the "poachers" are actually locals. This rings true for hunting and fishing. The locals feel "entitled" so they trespass and take over their limit. Many times it's not the non-residents but the actual locals who rape the resource. Think about it.

[Kettle]

The last two years I have seen more people hunting in Canada, doesn't bother me too much. I like my big water hunting so normally not much competition there but field hunting has been more competitive. We always ask permission, never seen anything posted but not sure of the trespassing laws. I would think most farmers up there wouldn't take to kindly to driving in their fields without permission. Fortunate to have farmer friends up there my dad established relationships with in the 80's so normally don't have to knock on doors of people we don't know. It does sound like next year we will be heading to far west Sask or Eastern Albert to avoid field competition.

Kettle

[fishuhalik]

IMHO, it isn't gonna be too long til nodak turns into Texas, especially around DL. Once landowners realize hunters are willing to "pay to play," they're gonna capitalize on it. It's the way our society is going. Many people have lost the friendly farmer attitude. I think a lot of that is due to the oilfield. There's such a huge influx of people from all over the country moving to nodak, & most oilfield guys that I know are at least casual hunters. Locals are tired of "oilfield trash" litering their roads, tearing up their land & making trouble in their small towns. In my area, I've seen posting go up by at least 500%. Just between last year & this fall, there was at least a dozen fields that I hunted last year that were posted this year.

[brittman]

Kettle,

The west side of SK is very busy in the core speck range. Often drier with fewer lakes and the river congregating birds. Can result in some stacking up of hunters.

[TylerS]

The funny thing is that most of the time the "poachers" are actually locals. This rings true for hunting and fishing. The locals feel "entitled" so they trespass and take over their limit. Many times it's not the non-residents but the actual locals who rape the resource. Think about it.

Ehem, "most of the time" is reaching. I'd say there are a fair share of slobs on either side of the border.

[brittman]

I have a feeling that in some areas of NoDak the land owners are wearing out of all the waterfowl hunting.

Use to be North Dakota would open 1st weekend of October and by deer season (early November) everything was froze but the MO river system and maybe a few other spots here and there.

Now the waterfowl season runs from mid-August through freeze up (which often goes into November). Then you add March, April and May for spring snow geese season and was once a 31 day season is well over 100 days and sometimes approaching 160 days or more.

Until 15 years ago or so ... central ND saw minimal waterfowl pressure and little nonresident pressure. Before 2000 or so most nonresident pressure was Devils Lake, the northern tier counties to Montana, and some in SE ND.

[Bryce]

Historically high water levels have changed the equation.

No time for scouting so set up on a hunch. No color and even the grays are showing off their education.

Scouting not showing a lot but did find a honey hole holding several thousand mallets for the morning. Some snows in the area. Wind to shift to the north later today. Hopefully brings in some new bords.

[fishuhalik]

Well, looks like its a flyover year boys. Couple of bros were out hunting the last couple days & watched bazillions (their estimated number, not mine) flying about 500 yards up & fast. Might see a few dropping down to rest but I doubt they'll get settled enough to set up a pattern by the time this cold weather hits next week. Until next year!!!

[fish_hunt_guy]

lotta season left fishuhalik lotta season left. and there will still be some birds to shoot dont get to excited, it aint over till its over

[lifterpuller]

guaranteed corn country in SE and SC will be bonanza city the next 5 days

[CANOPY SAM]

Hey fish! Ultimately, a lot of em' are headed down to you now anyway! You'll have to start a 2014 Texas Waterfowl Reports Thread!!!

I know that too much of Texas is locked up in private land, but there's gotta be someplace down there you can shoot at a duck or two?

[fishuhalik]

Well Sam, there's this small body of water about 30 mins from my front door I plan to spend a little time on. Hear it gets a few ducks & geese every year. I think it's called the Gulf of Mexico. Heard of it?

[Bryce]

Need fresh birds. Wavie numbers picking up. Pretty sure first hunt of the season shy of a limit.

[Bryce]

Not what I expected to encounter waking up to light snow and a winter storm warning but kept the hound busy. Quite a bit of movement but very few players.

[TylerS]

Did a bit of "scouting" during deer opener (did not fill my bow tag, but that's another story). While deer season was uneventful, holy moly did I see some awesome feeds on the drive home Saturday afternoon. Geese and big ducks were hitting the fields hard. They are still out there! Saw quite a few migrating cacklers, snows, Canadas and sandhills.

[Bryce]

The drive

The walk

[Bryce]

Hunted til the decoys looked like

And the hound looked like