Strikemaster Power with Nils auger

[dfeste]

I'm wondering if anyone has mounted a Nils drill on a Strikemaster power head before? I understand that they will not match up but I figure any machine shop could fab an adapter for a minimal cost. Due to the fact that they are the same drill on the hand and power auger I am assuming that the Nils rotates clockwise. Can someone confirm this? The biggest concern I am having is whether or not the 3hp will be too much power or torque for the Nils auger.

The reason this idea came into my head is that I think this would provide the most bang for my buck. I don't think too many will argue that the Nils is the best hand auger made. I can get the six inch for about $120. That's cheaper than a 6" SM lazer power drill.

Any thoughts or ideas that anyone has on this topic, other than go buy a whole new auger, I'd like to hear them. Right now it's just wheels turning in my head.

Thanks Dave

[Surface Tension]

Sure you can do it, its just a matter of making the adapter.

I've mounted a Mag III powerhead to a Nils. To me more specific, I used a Mora shaft and cut the mount off the bottom to except the Nils blade. To make the connection from Mag III shaft to Mora it was just a matter of using pipe as a coupler. Easier would have been to use the auger shaft that came with the Mag III and cut the bottom blade mount off to except the Nils blade. First you'll have to be sure that the dia is the same or smaller then the Nils head.

I also have a Nils Blade mounted to a More hand auger.

Your 3 hp will be overkill as far as power.

What both the Mag III and you 3 hp lack over the Tanaka engine and transmission is RPMs. So it will not cut as fast as a true Nils Master but it'll cut a heck of a lot faster then a chipper blade or more then likely faster then a lazer.

I happened to have an oddball Nils blade that had a very aggressive cut, too aggressive for the Tanaka as it would bog the engine.

It was perfect for the Mag III though so that is why I did it.

You be the judge.

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[fishwater]

The ice gator site sells an adapter for the nils that fits the strikemaster powerhead.

Adapter for Nils ice auger bits, hand or gas.

Part # 001-009

[Bass Whacker]

I'm in a engine rebuild class right now in school and I'm stuck waiting for parts, so I am in the process of modding out a spare auger I picked up this fall. I gave the old model 30 a quick port, upgraded ignition, and tuned pipe. Wow does it scream compared to my other jiffy but I feel very limited with the cutting speed of jiffy blades. So I started looking into this idea during my lunch break at school. I know my auger spins in the wrong direction from the factory, but my teacher thinks I might be able to reverse it. This might be a long shot but has anyone heard of anyone else doing this with a jiffy. Also is there anyone out there who has figured out how to make a recoil spin the other direction, it's the missing link to the puzzle right now.

[Brad B]

I'm wondering if anyone has mounted a Nils drill on a Strikemaster power head before? I understand that they will not match up but I figure any machine shop could fab an adapter for a minimal cost. Due to the fact that they are the same drill on the hand and power auger I am assuming that the Nils rotates clockwise. Can someone confirm this? The biggest concern I am having is whether or not the 3hp will be too much power or torque for the Nils auger.

The reason this idea came into my head is that I think this would provide the most bang for my buck. I don't think too many will argue that the Nils is the best hand auger made. I can get the six inch for about $120. That's cheaper than a 6" SM lazer power drill.

Any thoughts or ideas that anyone has on this topic, other than go buy a whole new auger, I'd like to hear them. Right now it's just wheels turning in my head.

Thanks Dave

if you want a 6" lazer drill unit check with H&H in Maple Lake, MN. they have them for under $100 (i believe they were $90). they would ship to you since you are in Duluth. they had the 9 inch lazer drill units listed on thier web site for $99.99 and the 10 inch lazer drill unit for $119.99

[CAMAN]

I'm in a engine rebuild class right now in school and I'm stuck waiting for parts, so I am in the process of modding out a spare auger I picked up this fall. I gave the old model 30 a quick port, upgraded ignition, and tuned pipe. Wow does it scream compared to my other jiffy but I feel very limited with the cutting speed of jiffy blades. So I started looking into this idea during my lunch break at school. I know my auger spins in the wrong direction from the factory, but my teacher thinks I might be able to reverse it. This might be a long shot but has anyone heard of anyone else doing this with a jiffy. Also is there anyone out there who has figured out how to make a recoil spin the other direction, it's the missing link to the puzzle right now.

I don't think you can reverse an engine without reworking all the timing and cams. I believe both Strikemaster and Jiffy motors run in the same direction, its just the gearbox on the output shaft that decides which direction it spins. Easiest fix would be to mount a Strikemaster or other proper direction gearbox and use that.

[Bass Whacker]

There is no cam because it is a two stroke so all I have to do to make the motor run backwards is is rotate the ignition triggers 180 degrees the rewind is the issue. My teacher did this to a earth auger to accept a different bit but he had a different style rewind. The problem I have is a gear box would cost money that I dont have being a poor college student. So far this is a free auger and I'd like to keep it that way as long as possible

[Surface Tension]

If you look at the way the gears are situated you'll see that you can't change the rotation in the gear box..

As far as getting it to run backwards you'd have to respool the rope and the flip the spring. Then the opening for the rope through the case might have to be changed because it'll chaff the rope. Most likely you'll have to do something with the dogs because they grip using the clockwise rotation.

It be a lot easier change the gear box to a Strikemaster gear box if you want clockwise rotation to use a SM or Nils drill and blades.

Leaving it and mounting a used stealth STX drill and blades would be even easier and if pitched correctly IMO just as fast as Strikemaster.

[Kodiak]

The ice gator site sells an adapter for the nils that fits the strikemaster powerhead.

Adapter for Nils ice auger bits, hand or gas.

Part # 001-009

i put the 8" nils w/power bit on my strikelite power head and i had to put the gator bit on the cnc to get it too fit.

i have it,,,the nils bit is heavy as hell. but it cuts alright.

[deadeye]

I am running that exact setup myself. I have a 6" and 8" Nils and with the ice gator adapter (slightly modified as mentioned above) it works good.

Last winter I picked up a new Solo powerhead and it really is interesting. You should see how fast the 6" one rips through the ice LOL. Burp the throttle and your through 2' of ice before you know what happened. The 8" one screams too. It takes a bit to get used to as it sits pretty tall. No need for a extension with that rig though. The other nice thing is that the 2.5 solo has much rpms compared to the old tech motor too. Plus decent torque so it doesn't bog down. I still have my old tech motor and had plenty of time to compare last year and that solo motor with the nils is definitely takes the win.