Fluoro-Braid leader

[TB Basser]

Anyone have any good experience with this connection? I've tried it many times

and saw a video by Ben Parker so I thought I'd give it another chance. Double

uni-knot. 6 wraps on Fluoro side, 9 on the braid. 20 lb fluoro and 30 lb braid.

On a flippin stick. Trying to hide the fluoro best I could. Colored the Braid too.

Now, I fished a tournament on Saturday and had around 12-13 lbs off the weed line

and the sun was coming out so decided to try a run of docks that have held some

nice fish in the past. flip into the front of a pontoon and get smacked. Set the

hook, fish come to the surface ( no jump ) and the darn line snaps are the knot?

I always have this problem. Thought it was me setting the hook to hard but I have

backed off the drag to help with that. Any suggestions? I still wouldn't have won

the tournament but would have move me up to 2nd or 3rd and a better check than 4th.

Any idea's? I think the braid is costing me bite's based on what my partner is doing from the back of the boat with beavers on a spinning set up.

[EBass]

Happened to me all the time, so now I just use a black permanent marker and run that up the line a couple feet. Or switch to a spool of Floro, but then it wants to jump off if it's not 8lb test or lighter.

Good luck!

[Fever]

TB,

Recently I've been using a blood knot to get my floro on my braid. I've found that the blood knot is a touch easier to tie than the back to back uni. In the past I've taken a brush applicator super glue and just put a tiny drop right on that knot. Never had had the knot fail and never had the line break due to a fish or a hook set. I've usually had a bit heavier line than 30# though. Usually it's 50 that I'm tying to the floro leader. My brother isn't as comfortable with the whole knot thing and one line to the next so he frequently uses a small barrel swivel and just ties that to the end of his braid with a polomer knot then about a 2-3 foot peice of 20 lb floro.

[Superduty]

That sucks TB,

I intended to play with the braid to flouro thing a lot this year but my fishing has been on hold obviously. I did have a chance to play with it on a spinning rod while smallie fishing on Mille Lacs early this year before I learned I was in for more surgery. I learned to tie the modified albrecht knot(spelling?) I found it much easier to tie than some of the others mentioned. Some of my kronies have been using it for a lot of years up on the border waters with good results. I fished all day on Mille Lacs and caught a lot of nice smallies on the same leader fished all day. Had to retie the knot to the bait a few times but the braid to flouro knot never broke. I'm guessing that the shock of a hookset in close quarters with a big flippin stick could be an issue. Have you thought about using a small swivel instead of the braid to flouro knot? In a flipping/pitching situation, I would think you could run a 4 foot leader and it would not be running through the guides ever. I usually stick with straight braid or straight mono on my flippin/pitching rods depending on the situation. I feel I am more accurate with good old 20 lb big game than any other line I have tried. A little stretch on a short pitch is probably a good thing.

[RK]

Hiya -

I've also switched to the Albright knot for fluoro to braid connections. Fairly easy to tie, and seems more reliable. If you do want to use a uni- to uni-knot, one thing that can help is doubling over the braid, especially if there's a significant diameter difference between the braid and leader material.

Cheers,

Rob Kimm

[Get'n Jiggy]

I've used a blood knot when joining line for years, tried going to a small

swivel, broke off about three fish just below the swivel, went back to the

blood knot and caught a 15+ pound pout on 4 # test floro the next trip.

[TB Basser]

Hey Superduty. Was just thinking about you. How did the second surgery go?

Thanks guys. I'll try your suggestions, just not on tournament day. lol

Live an learn.

[Superduty]

Don't remember much from surgery day. They had some good stuff pumping through my veins! I'm in an ugly cast for now with WAY too much time to mess around on these boards. Can't find any takers on my boat yet either.

[TB Basser]

Didn't know if you could type one handed or not.

No your probably bored silly. Matt Schnieder won

again on saturday. Two years in a row.

[dobiel]

Too many turns on the fluoro. I run a 30 braid/20 fluoro combo a lot and I always do 4 twists on the fluoro and 6 in the braid. I haven't had one fail yet.

[HellaBass]

I have really only used this for finesse stuff on spinning rods, I like the Seaguar knot.

But i have noticed with any knot if I really snap the line on the hook set, I tend to run into issues, but more of a sweep set and no issues

[chuckwagon]

Hey E bass ... is the black permanent marker trick just for fishing heavy cover like you would be doing in a flipping or pitching situation. To hide the braid line in the thick stuff ... I though that a green braid would hide pretty well on its own. I am interested so help me out guys

[EBass]

It just another option out there is all. I broke off way too many times with a uni knot. Heavy cover and stained water I don't worry to much about fish seeing the line. In clearer water though I'll mark up the line. I do have 15lb floro in the tackle box just in case that's not working.

I didn't mark up the line and got 2 18"s last night. So they weren't line shy. Stained water and deep weedegde so no big deal. Friend was using mono and I got more, but different jig to.

[RK]

Hiya -

One thing I didn't think of the first time around... Are you using fluoro leader material, or just castable fluoro? Leader material is a lot tougher, and holds up to the knots way better than fluoro meant to be spooled on a reel. Especially if I'm using lighter (< 15#) fluoro, I always use leader material.

Just a thought.

Cheers,

Rob Kimm

[toddb]

Have not tried this knot on lighter flouro to braid, but it is exceptional on 80# braid to 130# fluoro. Search Sebile knot or FG knot. I trim right to the knot after it is snugged.

[mainbutter]

The only time I've had issues with back-to-back uni knots tying on a fluoro leader was using some kind of fireline on my brother's reel. The fireline braid cut the fluoro whenever I tightened up the knot.

[EBass]

I think it's both RK. It doesn't happen all the time, but it happened enough that I just stopped using a leader for the past 2 years now. Could be some sorry knot tying too.