senate bill 2235 in ND legistrative

[brittman]

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Brittman - I did some research on my own. I went back to my ND Outdoors magazine. What I found was that in 2008, there were 27,367 resident waterfowl hunter and 42,621 NR waterfowl hunters. I could not find any data yet comparing 2009 or 2010. I suspect that 2009 and 2010 were lower in all NR numbers due to the economy.

No your data is incorrect and please go back and redo your research. The correct data is published in the January edition of North Dakota Outdoors each year. You can also google search Roger Rostvet ND hunting in review. ND Game and Fish Deputy Director's public report. The reports are also available on-line. License data is there.

Early 2000s saw a peak on NR WATERFOWL hunters at 30,000. Waterfowl NR licenses sold in North Dakota were 23,490 (2008), 18,967 (2009) and 22,658 (2010).

[duckster]

I must be missing something...I don't really see the downside. To me the three 4 day periods would be better than the 2-7 day. It would give me another opportunity to take another trip to hunt ducks in ND if I wanted to. It would increase my flexibilty to work around work schedules, migration and weather.

It has been my experience that after four days I either have plenty of ducks or am getting worn out anyway.....

Duckster

[brittman]

Agree duckster. I would happily take the 3 splits of 4 days !!!

Some would like to have no restrictions on total number of days and that simply will not happen anytime soon. Most likely those NRs that have bought homes in small towns or a few acres of land would like to use it more often.

Plenty of opportunities in Minnesota.

Those looking for unlimited days in another state should look to Nebraska or even Missouri.

[fishgutz77]

This is exaclty why the founding fathers gave so much power and sovernty to the states, so they could make the best outcomes for their economic sitsuations. A states ability to control it's resources is sacred ground just like MN walleyes are and so on.

No one wanted to be in ND when it was a dust bowl and no ducks did they? add a little water and boom you got ducks and the hunters followed. ND is just making the most out a thing that may not last forever.

I never complain or think twice when I see a boat from IA, Il, or ND fishing here because this is where some of the best fishing in the world is. Go gettem! just obey the laws and be prepared to pay the price at the pump, hotel, resort, resturants, and so on.

When we have no snow does the UP in Michigan stick it to out of state sledders?

I have to remind myself from time to time that were all americans and if you think you can get more out of life in another state than get off your $%^^%%$ and move.

If your not willing to do that then pay then piper baby.

I would duck hunt with my daughter in the blind even if I knew we weren't going to get a shot that morning as long as we are on the piece of ground my granfather bought in the 30's and we have so much attachment to. I am growing that attachment between the land and her right now and she just shot her first deer there last year.

We never shoot many ducks but we have a great time with chester the yellow wonder lab who never fails to get our downed birds.

Last year he went out to get a big greenhead we dropped and before he could get there a bald eagle swooped down and took the greenie right off the water in front of him.

We still laugh about that day in the old blind. Even if you don't have a piece of ground you can find somthing to hunt on and have a good time with out spending a grand to do it.

[RumRiverRat]

We need to play hard ball with Nodak.

[SledNeck]

We need to play hard ball with Nodak.

I agree

[cbrooks]

We need to play hard ball with Nodak.

Thats what I'm afraid of. I like having the best fishing in Minnesota and hunting in North Dakota. I live right on the border. Its a pretty good situation. I would hate to lose or be restricted in either one. I think North Dakota will become more NR friendly in the future. The only people opposed are a handful of hunters around the state.

[goblueM]

playing hardball never works out for either side

[Stringerless!]

My brother has a place on the Chesapeake bay and we went fishing there once. At the bait shop I asked how much for a nr license and the guy said it was "reciprical" which means I pay whatever my home state charges non residents. If your home state goudges non residents then you get goudged when you go out of state. That was 10-12 years ago . Not sure if it still the same. Just saying.

[cbrooks]

My brother has a place on the Chesapeake bay and we went fishing there once. At the bait shop I asked how much for a nr license and the guy said it was "reciprical" which means I pay whatever my home state charges non residents. If your home state goudges non residents then you get goudged when you go out of state. That was 10-12 years ago . Not sure if it still the same. Just saying.

Thats a fair way of doing it.

[Scott M]

BoxMN and I are in agreement. I go out for 5 days and can hunt 4 of them. If I can squeeze 3 weekends out of a trip instead of 2 it's a great deal.

[Scott M]

No luck.

North Dakota budges on non-resident waterfowl licenses, but barely

by Dennis Anderson, Star Tribune

05/29/2011

North Dakota lawmakers ended their session in April, considering during their 78 days of work just 25 bills regarding hunting, fishing and natural resources — fewest in more than a decade.

Non-resident waterfowlers made a little headway in gaining access to North Dakota's ducks and geese. But just a little.

Beginning this fall, non-residents will be allowed to hunt during the early goose season in Richland, Sargent, Benson, Ramsey and Towner counties without those days counting against their 14-day non-resident waterfowl license.

The bill passed the House 67-26 and the Senate 28-18.

The proposal wasn't so much a concession to non-residents as it was a recognition by North Dakota wildlife officials that their resident Canada goose population is growing, despite efforts to hold it in check. And North Dakota resident waterfowlers alone aren't likely to be able to kill enough geese to keep the population from rising.

Still, for those who hunt North Dakota, and who have taken advantage in recent years of its early goose season, this is a pretty big deal. It means they can make an additional trip to North Dakota to hunt ducks and geese.

The offering is essentially an experiment, good only through July 13, 2013, and wildlife officials will track the number of resident and non-resident goose hunters who participate, and the number of geese killed per county.

Not passing the North Dakota Legislature, unfortunately, was a bill that would have provided a season-long non-resident combination small game and waterfowl license.

Season-long, that is, except for the first week, which is reserved for North Dakota residents.

Granted, the license would have cost $500. But it would have given non-resident landowners in North Dakota an opportunity to utilize their property more fully. The bill failed in the Senate 17-29, and wasn't voted on in the House.

Also failing was a bill that would have established a non-resident waterfowl license valid for three four-day periods. Currently, only non-resident licenses good for 14 consecutive days or two seven-day periods are available in North Dakota. That bill failed in the Senate 21-25.

Finally, as testament to just how disinterested North Dakota is in encouraging non-resident waterfowlers to visit their state, a bill that would have allowed non-residents age 55 and older to buy a senior citizen, statewide, season-long small game and waterfowl license also failed.