tracker x-2 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Anyone herd of this new ammo. Its sapose to hit the markets is June. Ive read it has a better wad design than black cloud and 100% of the pellats are hexagonal leaving huge wound channels. I'm always up for a new product to try out so i look forward to shooting these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I'll probably try them out, but I wonder what the price will be. Hopefully they try to market them cheaper than BC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpshooterdeluxe Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Now the big 3 ammo manufacturers all offer shooting skill in a box. Everybody knows that if you shoot hypersteel, black cloud, or blindside that you immediately start skull crushing every bird that you point your $1300 shotty at, all the way out to 135 yards. maybe even 145 yards if you lead them a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 come on CSD 145 yards arnt you takeing them a bit close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpshooterdeluxe Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 well i do run super custom deluxe hand textured robotic anamatronic stuffers for decoys, so they really fool the geese... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superduty Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Hopefully being a winchester product, it will burn cleaner than federal blackcloud. I quit using federal shells years ago because of the powder residue, but jumped back in when I witnessed what black cloud could do. Sure have to clean my gun more again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpshooterdeluxe Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Hopefully being a winchester product, it will burn cleaner than federal blackcloud. I quit using federal shells years ago because of the powder residue, but jumped back in when I witnessed what black cloud could do. Sure have to clean my gun more again! interesting...i really only shoot federal blue box and orange box anymore; used to shoot kent and win experts an both were dirty . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittman Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I'll probably try them out, but I wonder what the price will be. Hopefully they try to market them cheaper than BC. These are high margin (profitable) shells for Federal. Winchester will price them in a similar fashion. If the market cannot handle all these high end shells, than all of these shells could exhibit some price erosion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparrucci Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I usually shoot best with the standard blue box Federals, or even the really cheap Winchester Xpert steel. I went through a lot of shells this year and I'm glad I only bought cheap ones. The black clouds do work pretty well and I have patterned them out of the ole 870. For more than twice the price of the cheapos on sale, it just isn't worth it on my income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpshooterdeluxe Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I usually shoot best with the standard blue box Federals, or even the really cheap Winchester Xpert steel. I went through a lot of shells this year and I'm glad I only bought cheap ones. The black clouds do work pretty well and I have patterned them out of the ole 870. For more than twice the price of the cheapos on sale, it just isn't worth it on my income. Agreed. Its nice to spend $100-130 a case instead of $180-$220 when you are buying 3 or 4 cases a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnum mike Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I saw an add for these and from what I remember, they are going to be ridiculously expensive. The Elite rounds are spend and these are supposed to be much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpshooterdeluxe Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I saw an add for these and from what I remember, they are going to be ridiculously expensive. The Elite rounds are spend and these are supposed to be much more. Nope.Will be priced to compete with Black Cloud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SledNeck Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Hopefully being a winchester product, it will burn cleaner than federal blackcloud. I quit using federal shells years ago because of the powder residue, but jumped back in when I witnessed what black cloud could do. Sure have to clean my gun more again! very interesting. Of all the shells I shoot, Federal is the cleanest. Winchester and Remington the dirtiest.Im not a fan of black cloud at all. For one, I can never find 3.5 #3s in stock anywhere (if they even make em)... I shoot waaaayyyy better with Kents than black cloud.Tryed those remington hypersteel last week and they definately KICK harder than any other shell. My friend blew the barrel up on a 15 year old 11-87 shooting a 3" hypersteel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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