where do you hold on a bear for the shot.

[Boar]

I hold right abouve the front leg elbow, an angle shot from abouve, I'll try to see thru the bear an aim for the opposite elbow. How about you guys? thick long hair can be decieving, giving the bear a deeper than normal profile. Boar

[jay83196]

What do you hunt with? I'm torn this year...never shot one yet so want to use what gives me best chance. Used rifle and bow for dozens of deer, but leaning toward 12 gauge, the whole bigger hole factor...

[mrklean]

im the same way i wanna use my bow but i want to make sure i get one so maybe a rifle???? i dont know

[Boar]

If you guys hunt with a bow for deer, you guys can do a bear. It's a mind game your playin with your selves right now. Just commit to it an do it. Ya know ya can so dont worry about anything else. Ya dont need a bigger hole on a boiler room shot. Practice the same shot in your back yard as your gonna do in the feild an you'll be fine. Belive me just because you might be packing some fire power, dosent mean your gonna get one. Come on guys, put the first one under your belt with a bow. Ya just cant blame me if ya mess up with a bow. Lol. Boar

[mudslinger64]

taking a bear with a bow is a rush,its cool having them so close you can see them blink.once you do it you wont be grabbing for a gun anytime soon at least i wont.same with deer i love it.

[bogwalker]

The "kill zone" on a black bear is much smaller and well protected than a deer. A bear can withstand much greater blood loss than a deer and keep on going. Also black bear have a slower heart beat than a deer which means it bleeds out slower. The tremendous amount of fat and long fur on a bear absorb and plug wounds meaning you can make a killing shot on a bear but never see him again.If you are prepared for deer you are not prepared for bear.

[remington 300]

boar, im with you on right behind the (elbow) of the front leg, thats what i told my son to aim for on his bear last fall, his aim was true and the bear went about 25 yards, watched him go down, its also true to think about the thru angle, exit spot, i like Quartering away.

getting excited, anyone else?

later,

mike

[Boar]

The elbow of a bear joins with the humeros bone that juts foward at a 45 dergree angle an connects with the scapula tha angles backward at 45 degrees creating a v that points forward toward the head, right abouv the front leg elbow is the center of this V. this is were the lungs are an actually extend not quite to the center of the bear.. Also this V. never closes as a bear walks. Aiming right abouve the front leg elbow is the hot spot. Boar

[bogwalker]

Seriously, Search for "shot placement bear" and learn black bear anatomy. We owe it to this amazing animal to dispatch it as quickly and painlessly as possible, nobody wants to wound a bear. I don't understand this "behind the elbow shot". Do you mean behind the shoulder? Shot angle is very important.

[lichen fox]

I always try and wait for a shot where the bear is slightly quartering away. (With his head away from me)...I try and wait 'till the bears head is down and he has the front leg nearest me stretched forward and prefferably the opposite leg is vertical or slightly back....I hold half way up the body, fairly tight to the front shoulder envisioning the angle. I usually end up with a double lung shot or, in many cases a lung-heart shot....I shoot 65 pounds with a heavy arrow and expandable blades that open up to one and a quarter inches on impact...I've harvested nearly 20 bears with archery equipment and I haven't had to track one more than 50 yards in quite a few years....

[remington 300]

yes you are correct right behind the front shoulder, boar described it pretty well, there looks like an elbow while looking at them broadside, which is right behind the front shoulder and shots will either double lunge them or lunge heart combo, they wont go far when hit there. rifle or bow.

good luck all.

mike

[Boar]

I am serious. I said nothing about BEHIND THE ELBOW, I said abouve the elbow, Which like Rem. said is behind the shoulder. So lets see about bear anatomy, starting at the bears front paw, bear have pretty much the same radius an ulna bones as we do in our forearms. From the paw running up is the fore arm consisting of the radius an ulna bones which connects to the humerus creating the elbow, the humerus agngling toward the head at a 45 degree angle that connects to scapula, the shoulder. That angles away from the head at a 45 degree angle creating a V. The lower end of the V is the elbow, The front leg is not attached to the spine with a bone to bone connection, it just floats there with tendons an muscle giving it alot more mobility than most animals we hunt. With in the V is the rib cage that holds the lungs an heart. Sorry if I learn differently that you bog, but dont critize me because you dont understand what I'm trying to get across. Remington gets it. We have two ears an a mouth for a reason. Just beacuse you dont understand what i'm trying to get across dosent mean I dont appreciate this God given resource. Every bear I've harvested has went no more than 30 yards an some anchored where they stood, with bow, muzzloader, and rifle. Later boar

[bogwalker]

boar, im with you on right behind the (elbow) of the front leg, thats what i told my son to aim for on his bear last fall, his aim was true and the bear went about 25 yards, watched him go down, its also true to think about the thru angle, exit spot, i like Quartering away.

getting excited, anyone else?

later,

mike

Boar,Get a grip. I was not even talking to you. Lighten up.

[bogwalker]

yes you are correct right behind the front shoulder, boar described it pretty well, there looks like an elbow while looking at them broadside, which is right behind the front shoulder and shots will either double lunge them or lunge heart combo, they wont go far when hit there. rifle or bow.

good luck all.

mike,

Thanks for clarifying that for me Mike.

[remington 300]

you go it bog, i took your advise after reading/replying to this topic, and did a shot placement check, plenty of good info with photos, illustations showing vitals, the pics shown didnt show as distinct of an (elbow) but believe me ive seen what appears to be an elbow, its like its pointing to the spot to shoot at,

also bog i appreciate all the info you proide on here, very good stuff,

Boar, too you as well,i feel ive known you both for months reading all your posts.

on a side note my son and i didnt draw but 5 others we hunt with did so we at least get to participate in some opening weekend bating,maybe the second,

but good luck to those that get to hunt, shoot straight,for the elbow<wink wink,

see ya,

mike

[bogwalker]

Thanks Mike I appreciate that.

[Boar]

Bog if ya feel i was otta line, I opplogize. When I reread your post under mine more carefully. I can see you werent crittizing, That was totaly my bad. I move to quickly sometimes an sometimes it's hard to interpet writting words on a forum. Sorry. lets move on. Sincerely boar

[Boar]

Thanks mike. Good luck. this year. boar

[CANOPY SAM]

Bog if ya feel i was otta line, I opplogize. When I reread your post under mine more carefully. I can see you werent crittizing, That was totaly my bad. I move to quickly sometimes an sometimes it's hard to interpet writting words on a forum. Sorry. lets move on. Sincerely boar

Amen to that!!!!!!!

[Boar]

Knew you couldnt resist.

[CANOPY SAM]

You know me too well! Ha Ha...

I'm just as guilty....