110 volt Ice Auger????

[B-man715]

A couple friends of mine have Ice Castles and I plan on getting a wheelhouse next year. The worst part of set up is using a 2 stroke ice auger and fuming up the whole house, including your clothes and pillow.

I know of all of the current 12 volt models available. If going that route I would get the Ice Gator, but what are your thoughts on a 110 volt ice auger??? (They always have a Honda 2000 running, it provides 16.7 amps)

How many horsepower/amps would be sufficent? Is a 2 hp gas motor the exact power equivient to a 2 hp electric? Could you get by with a 1/2 or 1 hp electric simply because they have 100% tourqe at 0 rmp?

I found a brand of motor that will fit onto a Strikemaster gear box (I will have to modify mounts.) It will thread right into the centrifigual clutch just as the 2 stroke does.

The gear ratio will work out with a 3450 rmp electric motor. A gas motor provides 170 rmp to the shaft with the 25:1 ratio. The electric will provide 138 rpm to the shaft with the same gear box.

Thoughts??? Ideas????

.......or am I retarded

[Bob Clausen2]

B-man,

I'm a contingency planner...no one I fish with regularly asks me IF I have something they need; they ask me WHERE that something is. 45 years of fishing, hunting and camping convinces me that generators can and do fail. Your backup plan with a 110 auger? Bring the gas auger along? Carry deep cycle batteries and a pretty spendy inverter? Hope a neighbor is there with his/her auger? Seems to me it would be simpler to use a 12 volt and eliminate a couple "players" needed to get you fishing under any and all circumstances. I also do a lot of my fishing 250 miles from home, so "running back home" to get something is not an option. If your house will be a few miles from your home, that wouldn't be the issue it would be with me. Just my thoughts.

[Steve Foss]

I agree with 7over30. Much simpler just to get the 12-volt IceGator. Cut with it a few times and you'll be mighty glad you did. My backup to the Gator is to have an inverter along in my vehicle, and a hand crank (I have a Nils drill on the Gator) as a second backup.

[icehousebob]

I'm old enough to remember the first homebuilt 12 volt electric augers, made with car starter motors and old steering worm gears. One memory was that they were wrist breakers. They had two speeds, off and full speed. Your 2hp might be even worse. Something to consider in your planning.

[Bob Clausen2]

icehousbob,

What a kick that was...watching guys spinning around their holes or ice augers spinning wildly in the hole until the operator could unhook the battery clamp. Guys thought my dad was a genius when he (early on) put a push-button starter switch on his. Thanks for a trip down memory lane!

[Tom7227]

Somehow steel, water and 120VAc in combination seem like a bad idea. I have a 12 vDc strikemaster and it works well for what you're considering. You get a jumper cable setup with it in case the vex style battery that's built in isn't enough. You can always have your boat battery in the shack ready for use to jump the strikemaster if you needed it.

[MJ1657]

I still have whats left of the starter motor auger my grandpa built. He used a gear reduction starter off an IH tractor. Welded on a couple handles off of a push lawnmower and a foot dimmer switch. He said it took several days to weld the handles to the housing. He could only weld a little at a time or it would damage the internals.

He retired it from auger use and turned it into a hand held electric starter for our woodsplitter.

[efgh]

Iwouldn[t even think about a 110 volt auger motor, 110 volts standing on a good ground, like water either frozen or wet ice= either a good shock or dead.

[mn50racer]

B-man,

Take advise from a Electrician. You are asking for a dangerous sitution with 110v on water. Stick with a 12v or goto a less smokey 4 stroke auger. I use a 2 stroke in my house and just leave all windows and doors open when augering and after for a few minutes. I have never had a problem of the exhaust smell lingering.

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[boxcar46]

I just bought the Jiffy electric w/10 foot extension. I always carry a extra deep cycle with me anyway. I to was fed up with all the smoke.

[GoneFish'n71]

anyone have problems redrilling with 12v augers? I have one, but have never tried redilling holes with it.

[trapperdirk]

What I don't understand is why anybody wants to convert 110 to 12 volt Why not 12 from the beginning . If you can afford a wheel house you can afford an icegator or a similar 12 volt .

TD

[Ed Carlson]

I look at it this way. If you have a generator, you than have an unlimited supply of 12 v power at your disposal in a permanent...so...it's of no great singular advantage to do a 110 V conversion to achieve the same result from the same gear drive.

But by converting it, you then limit your portable options of the 12 V ice auger. In the end, I can't see the outcome of a 110 conversion being worth the work of converting it.

I also suspect the 110 motor will not fair as well under the stress and uneven load of reopening ice holes and may have a short life span.