209 Primer not firing in cold weather

[korn_fish]

I have had my fair of powder misfires before, but never had the 209 primer not fire for me.

This past weekend at 6 degrees was the coldest I have muzzy hunted before. Also using a new Kodiak CVA.

Basically, pull the hammer back and fire and nothing happened. I was replacing the primers thinking it was a bad cap and trying to fire again but same thing happened. Then I just kept pulling the hammer back and pulling the trigger using the same primer cap and eventually it would fire. I was using Remmington Kleanbore primers and then a buddy gave me some of his Winchesters to use. Same issue with the winnies.

Anyone else have issues with extreme cold weather and the primers not going off? Or should I be looking at the gun to see if the hammer impact needs to be adjusted?

[Froggy4371]

Korn,

I would look to to the gun. I have shot MANY rounds off in below zero weather and never had a problem at all. I am thinking that you might a striker issue with the hammer or somthing.

Froggy

[lawdog]

I agree with froggy. A 209 primer is really a shotgun shell primer remember. Thousands of them are shot every year in extremely cold conditions for upland birds and waterfowl. no reason a primer wouldn't fire in the cold.

My guess is you have a gummed up hammer and its falling very slow in the cold conditions and isn't striking the primer with enough force to set it off.

[JacobMHD]

Is the dimple on the primer centered?

[korn_fish]

No the dimples are not centered. Not far from center though. Brand new gun, first shots through it had the misfire issue though.

[lawdog]

when it doesn't fire, is the primer dented and if so how deep? Compare a fired primer to one that didn't fire and I'd bet you see a difference.

If the gun is new and has done this from the start, I'd take it back. Still say there is no way its those primers!

[SledNeck]

youre lucky, the last 6 days for me have all been colder than 6F

[Gordie]

I also have shot a lot in colder weather and have only had one 209 fail well thats because it fell in the water so I thought I try it any way and yep didnt work.

My buddys dad had something simalar happen opener he shoots a cva wolf and the hammer would not strike the primmer and he found while he was shooting at a deer. He said that there was dirt and corrision buikld up down by the pivet point of the hammer he cleaned the boogers out of it and has not had a miss fire yet. He also said that he didnt think that part of the gun wouldnt get as dirty as it did so he did clean it as good as he should have.

[troutned]

If the dents in the primers are not centered, and it is a new gun, I agree that you should take it back to the retailer. Be sure to have one or two of the primers with the off-center dimple with you to demonstrate what it is doing. I had a similar situation with a brand new revolver a few years back. The retailer looked at the dents (off-center) on the primers of a couple mis-fires and said, "yep, that's the gun". He was very helpful in getting a replacement from the manufacturer.