Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
Jordyn Kaufer

What kind of dog?

33 posts in this topic

I'm getting a dog soon and was wondering what kind I should get for duck, pheasant, and grouse hunting?

I was thinkig of a AKC blak lab

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think that Yellow labs are better for pheasants, but you can get by with a Black one. grin

Seriously though, yes they are fine with Pheasant hunting.

"hooks"

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

thanks guys.

What's the difference btwn a male and a female?

Like does it make a difference on which one I

Should get?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I got my first lab this spring. She has been the most people pleasing dog I have ever owned and a great hunter already. Her obedience has been going great and I can't say enough about her. She will work solely as a retriever and heel at my side till I ask her to retrieve a bird or I can tell her to find em and she will work as a flusher. I can see why, they are so popular, they are very trainable. The only thing I could live with out is the chewing. They are horrible chewers. I have always preferred females over male dogs, just a personal preference I guess.

Our first grouse.

birddogmol.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

is that a pinch collar in your pic?

I hope I dont catch any flack for this, and Im not here to intentionally hi-jack a thread just want to help.

A pinch collar should only be used during training sessions only and should NEVER be left on unattended dogs.

If thats a pic of your first grouse then I am going to guess you were not training. This could be a really big concern as that collar could get caught or snagged on something in the field. If your dog fall or gets caught he could injure himself, or even worse when your dog comes across water or needs to make a retrieve in water the the collar could get caught there as well and the dog could drown.

I would suggest hunting your dog with a normal nylon collar etc. If I am jumping the gun here I apologize, just would rather give you the heads up before something bad happends.

Again Im just another dog lover trying to help another.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

should I get

A male or female?

Or is the only differnce size?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

does it matter if it's a female/male?

Is there a differnce in performance?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

male or female will make zero difference. Especially if they are fixed before they fully mature... usually at 7-9 months. Performance is the same, abilities are the same. You'll get a million opinions on which is better, but in the nd it makes no difference. If there was 'truley' one better sex, then it would be awefully hard to sell the other sex and there would be a lot of puppies culled. So in the end 50% of the gys will say male and 50% of the guys will say female... your decision... Just alter them and you will not know the difference.

Good Luck!

Ken

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Rundrave, I appreciate the concern and it is a very valid one. I should have took the collar off for the picture because it can portray the wrong idea. I didn't think of that till after taking the picture and it was already dark so this is the only one I got. I was actually hesitant to post the picture because of the collar. We were training while on our evening walk and I took my .410 along just in case we saw a bird or two behind the house. Well, we saw one sitting on the trail and I figured it was as good of a time as any to try her first retrieve on a live bird. She was only allowed to leave my side to get the bird and came back which was maybe 25 yards at the most in a pretty open area. She was in my sight the whole time. The rest of the walk she was at a heel on a lead. She does listen real well off lead so I wasn't concerned about her taking off into the wood after something else.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quote:
What's the difference btwn a male and a female?

The only difference is the male has an outie and the female has a innie. I believe Labs4Me has it right.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I was waiting for that laugh

Seriously I have both male and female Springers and the differences in hunting ability is nill. Look at the parents of the puppy and you will see the range of hunting ability for the puppies generally.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quote:
What's the difference btwn a male and a female?

The only difference is the male has an outie and the female has a innie. I believe Labs4Me has it right.

Oh I already knew that... haha I was really aksing what the difference in hunting abilities are between the genders

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The only difference is if your Female comes in cycle during hunting season and you hunt with other dogs ,males, it screws up their brain pretty good.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Fix them and you won't have either problem... breeding isn't as romantic as people think...

Good Luck!

Ken

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i have a Yellow lab he is a great duck hunting dog but hes not real birdy yet ive been trying to get him pheasant hunting but hes kind of lazy. but a lab would be my choice for a duck dog.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

For ducks, pheasants and grouse you cana't go wrong with a Lab, yellow or black. The main requirement is that its genetics is geared to hunting, otherwise you might just end up with a great pet.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Labs make great pheasant dogs. I have hunted with black labs and their ability to find cripples is hard to surpass. I have English Setters because I prefer a big ranging pointing breed but I can tell you that Setters are not great at locating running cripples. It seems with the Setters I've had, they are more interested in pointing them than locating dead or crippled birds, but they are fun to watch.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I hunted over an French Brittany this weekend who was outstanding,but like many pointers was week in the retrieving department. We hunted over a lab who excelled at hunting dead but bumped or located way fewer birds than either the water spaniels on Brittanys we hunted over.

No water what you choose it's a compromise. We hunted many birds hunkered down in a steep drainage ditch because of the blizzard this past weekend. The pointers pointed birds that wouldn't flush and the lab wouldn't go down in the ditch to bump them so we took turns climbing down ourselves to bump the birds.

Remember every dog is entitled to one serious fault. Hans

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

On a pheasant hunting note only. I lived in South Dakota for 8 years and have hunted behind lots of dogs. I just recently got back from a trip out there now that I live in MN. IMO labs are not the answer for pheasant hunting. We lost right around 15 downed birds hunting behind 3 labs. They just couldn't seem to find the birds once they hit the ground. Granted there was a lot of scent in the field, dogs with better noses should have found these birds. If you are just looking to get a dog for hunting I would get a Wire Hair and train it well. Brittany's are also great dogs except our last Brittany didn't retrieve but she would find them and hold them down until we got there. With duck hunting labs are the only way to go.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Shorthairs for me. Nothing wrong with a lab, I just prefer a pointing dog to hunt upland game. If the majority of your hunting is ducks I would go with the lab. I know there are circumstances where a flushing dog can be more productive than pointing dogs, but once you shoot a rooster over a point there is no going back in my opinion.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Posts

    •   They are now making a cloth made out of trees and it seems like the plant is doing just fine. I have not noticed the "smell" since the conversion. Always made me wonder why the smell was the worst on weekends. Kinda thought that maybe the EPA did not work weekends 
    • We are heading back up to Isle Royale for the 4th holiday weekend ,,, Hope to have another video when we get back 
    •   My Father-in-law (a master plumber) always used to say you only need to know 3 things to be a plumber:          sh*t doesn't run uphill         payday is on Friday         the boss is an ahole      
    • I've been getting them at Costco,  I've checked slyvee and sams but never see them.  Although one of the butcher's at slyvee says he can get them which might not be a bad idea since you can have some fat cut off before you pay per #. I picked one up a couple of weeks ago and it was about 2.80 a #, which isn't too bad yet considering bacon in the store can run quite a bit more than that.  You making bacon or doing pork belly burnt ends moon lake?
    • Excellent summer fishing.  Charters catching strong numbers.  Jig/minnow or jig/leech and bouncers with spinners with crawlers or minnows still producing walleyes. When the wind is right for pulling spinners, they have been lights out.  Walleyes being caught in varying depths, 7-31' of water.  Some shallow shorelines still producing. Pike mixed in all over the lake.    Walleyes in the Rainy River with a better morning/evening bite.  Trolling cranks or pulling spinners a good idea to cover more water. Smallmouth bass are out and about along shorelines and feeder streams. Sturgeon fishing opens again Saturday, July 1st.     Up at the NW Angle, water temps are in the low to mid 60’s. Wind blown shorelines are giving up walleyes via leeches or crankbaits along the weed line. Crawlers on a  gold and/or orange spinner are producing fish out of the mud between 22 - 26 feet. On the Canadian side, bottom bouncers and spinners have been filling the livewells outside of monument bay between 24-28 feet.  Jigging near Skeet and Kennedy Islands have produced nice sized walleye and numerous perch. Great smallmouth action in Tranquil channel and the mouth of Johnston passage. Muskie fishing picking up with high 40” class fish being caught with a few 50's from shallow bottom bays or adjacent to them.
    • Busy time of year out there so if u get canceled it is hard to rebook especially with the smaller operations. Bummer though as it can be a lot of fun if they are biting. 
    • I understand that you never really know when the Warriors are going to fall off or if they even will.  Hopefully the Wolves can make the playoffs and gain some experience, maybe teach the rest of the team how to play defense, so that in a few years we are knocking on the door and can lure in a top free agent to put us over the edge.  Its just an awful tough time to be a good team right now with the Warriors so clearly heads and shoulders above everyone else.
    • I couldn't have said it better myself pikestabber!  We have to go out there and do what we can now and not try to set up for "when the warriors are old" cuz the way the NBA is going who knows what players may join forces to set up the next "Warriors" squad.  Heck maybe the Wolves will be that next team !!  I just really love the addition of Butler and from the sounds of it we are not done yet and I am excited to see what will happen in free agency and if we could really land the likes of Kyle Lowry one of the other PG's that are hitting the FA market.  Nice to see the Wolves making moves!!
  • Our Sponsors