works2play Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I have 6 rods that need new tips, what is the best glue to use on them? Hot glue or a contact cement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Cloud Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Stay away form the contact cement. I use a product called furrel cement. It is basically a harder version of hot glue. I see no reason hot glue would not work. Give it a try, when it hardens see if the tip will pull off. If it pulls off pick up a furrel cement stick or the stuff used for glueing inserts into arrows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorth Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I have heard of folks using 5 or 30 minute epoxy too, but I use the ferrel cement like Dark Cloud. You need to be sure you can get it back off in case of breakage and I don't know how much heat you need to loosen up the epoxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinkADunk Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 5 minute epoxy or Flexcoat tip-top adhesive (aka hot melt glue). The Flexcoat is very easy to use and very easy to reposition if you need too. I've been satisfied with it on the rods I've built. 5 minute epoxy will work too and sets harder but if you need to remove the tip-top you will need to apply much more heat than if you use the Flexcoat adhesive. A butane torch or heat gun will be needed and if you aren't careful you will damage the rod tip (smoking graphite isn't a good idea). Don't use epoxy with a pot life longer than 5 minutes. It will set so hard that you will not be able to remove the tip-top without damaging the rod blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.W.Wolfram Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 High temp hot glue is the ticket. Lo temp glue can come loose on hot summer days resulting in It spinning or coming off all together. I use to use 20 min epoxy on Muskie rods for extra support and it worked well (use vary little) Heating the blank can cause delimitation, so be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gf1sh1 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 correct me if i'm wrong. basicly when you put a tip on all that matters is that is doesn't come off and it won't move. true or false. is there other things to consider as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.W.Wolfram Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 BigFish1,If the tip cracks, breaks, or the ring comes out you want to be able to replace it W/O cutting the rod shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorth Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Captain Fireman has it right. You need to be able remove the tip in the case of breakage. And they do break on occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueFin Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 For me it's really nice to be able to adjust the tip-top with the high temp glue. I usually miss the mark the first time keeping it lined up with the rest of the guides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
works2play Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 Thanks for the info. I used some hot glue, rod tips stayed in place when I pulled on them. I'll give them the test this weekend on Kabetogama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gf1sh1 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Quote: BigFish1,If the tip cracks, breaks, or the ring comes out you want to be able to replace it W/O cutting the rod shorter. yeah, so basicly all you want to use is something that can be removed relitively easy? i use the hot glue i bought in a tip kit a few years back, haven't needed it but to change a few,and i was reading epoxy and whoknowswhat and just had to ask. i've always been happy with hot glue and this stuff in the kit. so your saying it's ok to use hot-melt because it will hold the tip just fine and epoxy isn't such a good idea in''most'' applications? is epoxy ever nessassary for a tip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodmaker Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Use the hot glue. It comes in a stick. You just take a lighter to it. Wait until it starts to get soft. Put it on the rod tip, and install the rod tip. It's that easy.I've never had a problem with this building rods @ Thorne Bros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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