Will there be any "The Sox are in last place!" threads started here?

[SledNeck]

Yeah Chicago has a big payroll, but with the exception of one fluke year they are perennial losers to teams in the division with smaller payrolls and much smaller metro areas. And that just makes EVERYONE willing to jump on board....especially pitchers.

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Fishy,

You seem to have re-directed this thread. I was responding to your statement that the "vultures were circling" here in Chicago and I told you to watch your own back with Santana and Hunter. I never said anything about us contending or getting back in the race, I had actually said long ago that I had given up on this season. I think the words "they are dead to me" were posted many months ago (right Geno).

To the original point, we have all our players signed up that need to be signed up. Buehrle, Dye, Konerko, Thome and we are getting an infusion of decent new talent with Fields, Richar and Owens. We did not get the job done this year but the fact still remains that among the Pale Hose, Twinks and Cubbies we have the newest hardware and it is only two years old. The Twinks hardware has quite a bit of tarnish on it and the Cubbies are still searching below the pyramids in Egypt to unearth their last championship trophy.

I still believe you are much more open to be "picked clean" by the vultures with YO-Han looking for the lottery and Mr Hunter in the sites of many teams with open wallets.

Windy

[fishyguy]

I was not redirecting the thread intentionally but I was responding to your message about Hunter patrolling center field in The Cell. My point about the other teams being closer to contending was not about this year but about the attractiveness of the other teams to a free agent looking for a ring.

I don't see where I ever doubted your realistic view of your team. I remember well your "dead to me" comment.

[genegodawa]

Windy, ralistic? I don't know about that.

[fishyguy]

I was being nice since he seemed sensitive today.

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Fishy/Geno,

I think I am one of the most realistic fans out there. What other Pale Hose fan called them out earlier this year than me? I would have to point the finger at the Cubbie Kool Aid sippers out there who think every year is "the year" only to refer to the phrase that they have worn out for 99 years.....WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!

Sorry for the misread Fishy, but I had to mention the fact that you guys have much more attractive "bait" that is unsigned than the Pale Hose and they appear to be in play with the "tightness" of your owners wallet.

Windy

[fishyguy]

I hear ya. Mr. Pohlad is going to have to loosen up the purse strings if the Twins are going to remain a playoff hopeful. That said, I think Torii stays and Johan is traded this off season when his value and the teams leverage will be the highest. I would be o.k. with that if we get a solid arm, a David Wright type 3rd baseman and an appropriate amount/level of prospects. The last time the Twinks traded a big time Cy Young winner they got a few pieces that helped them get the '91 title.

I want Johan to stay but when you see what some other big names have signed for in the past couple of years (Buehrle, Zito, Zambrano, etc), I just don't see it happening here.

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Sounds like a possibility Fish.

Windy

[mnwild]

Hey Windy,

This is in response to Hunter patrolling the green grass, I saw this this morning and I bet he will be there...

White Sox targeting Twins free agent

Posted: Thursday August 23, 2007 07:44AM ET

White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen, who once described Scott Podsednik as "unreliable" because of his injuries, wouldn't say if this latest injury sealed Podsednik's departure after this season. The Sox will address several areas during the off-season, particularly center field with Minnesota free agent Torii Hunter as a target.

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Wild,

I have a pulse on things here on the Southside and I heard a while ago that he was on the radar screen. I also have some inside stuff that is a long shot but I hear there are some number crunchers who are trying to figure out what it would take to get another beloved Twink out of his uniform and into the silver and black. Seems like we may be looking for another left handed starter!!! You heard it here first, just like the Tori story. AJ, To and Yo. Sounds like a nice trifecta. Strength up the middle right? Catcher, Pitcher and Center Field.

Windy

[SledNeck]

5 bucks say hunter signs with the twins

[Willy]

Windy, why would you want those guys?

Just last year you were talking how Johan would only be the 4th best starter for the Sox.

It really doesn't matter. No way in hell do either of those guys end up with the Sox. We hear these kinds of rumors about every team in the MLB. Everybody thinks they have a shot. Anyway, what would the Sox have to offer up to trade for Johan? Sorry, but it will take at least one bonafied well above average MLB player at 3B, plus a pile of top prospects.

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Willy,

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Hunter deal may be a done deal, just not for public consumption yet and as for Mr Santana, who said anything about "trading" for him. They are looking at free agency pick up. I guess if we got used to AJ catching for us and Dennis Rodman on the Bulls then we can get used to Tori and Yo.

Windy

[Willy]

You must work for the WhiteSox eh?

Hunter does that he automatically goes from Minnesota's most beloved to enemy #1.

As far as getting Johan through FA, if we know we won't be able to sign him, he will be traded. We can't let a guy like that walk for nothing.

[mnwild]

Hunter is good as gone after this year. Its all about the benjamins these days, there is no player loyalty in this day and age, and its a business to these guys.

[fishyguy]

If you want Johan before 2009 it will have to be a trade since he is signed through next year.

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

I'm right there with you Wild, I agree.

Fish, I think that may be the plan, get Hunter this year and line up the Benjamins for Yo next year. Twinks will probably be all ears with trades for Yo prior to that and I am sure there will be tons. Not sure that we can lure him away from the east coast. If I was a betting man I would say Yo will probably be a lot closer to the Atlantic Ocean than Lake Michigan or Superior within the next year or two.

Windy

[genegodawa]

Windy,

You ARE a betting man!

(your favorite is poker, but you'll be displaying a Cub logo AGAIN in a few days).

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Geno,

So far we are even up for the year. I got April and May, you got June and July. When my boys turn things around and your boys go in the tank I wil be on top. It may not happen in Aug but Sept is right around the corner and the Cubbies are used to tanking in Sept, right? (see 1969) LOL

Come on Geno, sing along with me....To Dream The Impossible Dream....

Windy

[genegodawa]

Wanna bet?

[fishyguy]

Hey Geno...The Sox were 12-16 last September and your Cubbies were 11-17. That said, the Sox were in a pennant race and still couldn't muster up some quality ball while your squad was already making tee times. Reverse those scenarios and I see your team coming out hot this Fall.

Double up on your bet.

[genegodawa]

Notice how he once again tried to divert attn from the facts by bringing up ancient(1969) history?

As of this am, my Cubbies had a 9 game lead in wins over Windy's "p"alehose. Cubbies can play .500 (18-18) and the WSox would have to go .750 (27-9) over the last 36 games for them to TIE.

I wouldn't even need to take 'insurance' if I double up with the ol' SSide Windbag.

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Geno,

You know I am a betting man so I am going to need some odds here to lure me into a sucker bet. What are the odds of my "p" ale hose catching your Cubbies this season....100 to 1 sounds about right, maybe even 1000 to 1. Let me know, I have never met a sucker bet I didn't consider. LOL

PS You know I had to throw in the 69 salt whenever the situation presents itself!

Windy

[grasshopper]

Who 2 years ago were The champs and now have the worst record in baseball.

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Grasshopper,

You truly have a keen eye for the obvious!

Windy