Muzzleloader question

[Jmonkster]

I have a CVA, Hunterbolt mag. I usually shoot Pyrodex pellets (x3) 150 grains. I went to buy my usual Pyrodex pellets and Joe's was out (or do not carry anymore). The gun dept. told me that switching to Triple 7 pellets (x2) 100 grains would be fine. I would most likely not have a shot over 80-100yds. Should I go out and find my usual pellets or is switching to Triple 7 acceptable?

[JDM]

I swtched to 777 and I like it better. Before you shoot 150 grains, though, I would check with CVA to make sure it can handle it. 777 is stronger. At the distances you are shooting, two pellets should be plenty and most likely will be more accurate. When I changed, I didn't have to adjust my sights, but I shoot a TC Omega with Powerbelts.

[lawdog]

Whenever you switch powders you need to sight the gun in again. Each one is different and 100 777 isn't going to shoot the exact same as 150 Pyrodex. 777 is a cleaner nicer powder in my opinion and I switched to it from Pyrodex, but you definitely need to shoot it to see where you are at and get it sighted in. At this late date, you don't really have time to do that so you better find the same powder you are sighted in for.

[Borch]

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I swtched to 777 and I like it better. Before you shoot 150 grains, though, I would check with CVA to make sure it can handle it.

777 is stronger

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This is true for loose powder. The pellets however, have been adjusted and are an equal charge.

[WalleyeWeasel]

I also bought the 777 pellets and have a cva. The manufacturer (owners manual)of the gun says that a "wet" patch must be ran down the bore after "every" shot using this type of powder(non-sulfur),paying close attention to the area that seats the bullet............WHY??

So i shoot @ a deer and need a follow-up shot do i need to run a patch or do i go get new powder ??

Also, what exactly do they mean by a WET patch ??

[orangestew]

I shoot a CVA with pryrodex pellets, with powerbelt bullets and I think my gun is actually more accurate on the 2nd and 3rd shots without cleaning the barrel.

[Stratosman]

That's why I shoot pyrodex out of my CVA, after I read that anyway. I shoot 4 to 5 shots and then clean the barrel with bore cleaner and dry patches. Seems after the first shot mine is a bit more accurate as well...No way do I want to jerk around with cleaning after every shot.

[Whoaru99]

As mentioned, pellets are 1 for 1, but that does not mean they shoot the same.

I'll be shooting 90gr loose 777. I tried a few shots with 150gr in pellets just for the heck of it and it sure did seem to leave a really big mess inside the gun. I'm going with a relatively light bullet though at 250 grains so I still have plenty of velocity at 90gr powder.

Last outing I shot roughly 15 times and ran the bore brush down (dry) about every 5 shots just to knock out the "chunks". Didn't seem to have any significant problems with accuracy or loading the bullet/sabot.

[Hines R]

Triple 777 tends to leave a ring of residue right at the point that the bullet seats. This could affect accuracy. When I'm at the range I usually run 2 wet patches, and then 2 dry down the barrel in between each shot.

I've shot multiple shots in a row though and it hasn't affected my accuracy that much. It does get harder to get the bullet seated with each consecutive shot. I'd probably only go 3 shots before running a spit patch down my barrel in the field though.

Ryan

[Whoaru99]

I've heard/read that too from other places. I've not seen any type of obvious ring.

Maybe I don't see it because I'm not using so much powder?

[Borch]

I've heard of and had seen the crud ring with the 777. It seems to get worse with hotter ignition sorces. Those using caps or cooler 209 primer see much less of an issue than those using hotter 209 primers.

[Whoaru99]

Maybe that's it. I'm using the Triple 7 branded primers....

[JEV]

I used 777 last year with standard Winchester 209 primers and I had the "crud ring" problem. I could shoot maybe a couple times and by then I had to clean. I tried the Hodgon 777 primers this year, and I can say for a fact that they have made a big difference in the presence of a ring in my muzzleloader. I have shot upto a half dozen shots, pulled the breech plug, and looked down the barrel and there is no ring. Great improvement if you ask me....

JEV