Felt recoil

[Rogue Hunter]

I've never used a slug gun before, but bought a rifled barrel for the wingmaster, and thought I'd try it. I went out to sight it in today. I shot five rounds, and I tell you what...my shoulder hurts right down to the bone! Unreal!

So, I have a question: where would the recoil of a 12ga, 1oz, 1900fps slug(Winchester Partition Gold) fit into a scale of recoil for rifle calibers?

Thanks,

Rogue

[skeeter185]

I think shooting a slug gun is way worse than a rifle. Even my 7mm. Just think, its trying to push a half pound if lead out the barrel. If you're in the right range, I dont think anything will drop a deer faster than a slug.

[shae1986]

You will feel the recoil now, but when that deer steps out in front, you wont feel a thing. Sighting in the shotguns is actually a kinda painful process, but it has to be done, and i agree with skeeter that a slug will drop a deer in its tracks.

[CrappieJohn]

I'm thinking that therecoil is somewhere in the 40 lbs area per shot. The set you have, if without a scope, is about 7 pounds and those partitions are hot. They now have 3" in that round, but the 2 3/4 is plenty for any critter in this state where you'd need a slug.

[FOOT]

Skeeter, "A half pound of lead". Man that has to be some slug. Most slugs I know only have 1 ounce of lead not 8 ounces. Seeing as there is 16 ounces to a pound.

[lunker651]

Yep, they hurt. Try sighting in an A-5 12 gauge, it kicks like crazy. I had to learn it the hard way my first time sighting. Now, when I sight in any shot gun, I wear a recoil pad and I can shoot all day if I want.

I don't know recoils in pounds on shotgun and rifles but I can say that shotgun's recoils are much harder than rifle's.

[Mr Special]

I've got one buddy with a .338 and another with a 45-70 marlin they both say my 12ga kicks harder. I've shot they're rifles also but only after shooting my slug gun. So I think theirs kicks less, but at that point your shoulder pretty much numb anyways.

With the extra gear on during a hunt and the present of a deer you won't notice a thing.

Good luck

[lawdog]

The funny thing with sighting in guns though is no matter how hard they beat you up at the range (and there is no denying a 12 ga slug gun kicks like a mule), they don't ever hurtt when ol' mossy horns is standing there in the sights!!

It is one thing to be careful with though, particularly with kids slug hunting. Keep them in the 20's as long as you can so they don't get beat up too bad by the big canon.

[Gissert]

For taming recoil when sighting in or target shooting, a good recoil pad is a must of course.

A few years ago, I bought something that is a great help in addition to a recoil pad on a gun.

PAST makes a ambidexterous shoulder pad that slips over your arm and goes in between the gun and your shoulder. It is quite thin, but really soaks up the recoil and spreads it over a larger area.

It makes shooting a .338 off of sand bags managable. A 30/06, 12 gauge, or .270 with the PAST pad is great for new or recoil sensitive people. I shot 20 rounds of 30/06 off of sand bags last Sunday and could have easily shot as much as I wanted without getting flinchy from the recoil.

I got my PAST pad from Midway.

[Guest]

Your shooting a cannon-ball.. I would only expect to be holding a cannon. Burd shot in steel pushing a 1-1 1/4oz loads are shooting around 1500 fps these days. Lead loads I think are around 1200 for the same. Now your shooting a load that weighes roughly as much, but shooting just under 2000 fps... Its going to kick like a mule.

Slugs are heavy and the loads have them moving fast so you have some range. You would have considerably less recoil shooting them from an auto loader.. but your not. A slip on recoil pad will help, an aftermarket recoil pad on your gun(screws to stock) would help.. a shooting jacket or shirt with padding designed to absorb recoil will help(not just the stuff made for looks)..

No matter what, they do kick in the end. Get your gun sighted in and deal with it.. it will hurt the deer much more, and you wont feel a thing when you squeeze off that shot.

[Hotspotter]

Is it just me, or does a magnum rifle (.338 for example) seem to kick more suddenly or sharper than a 12ga? I don't know what it is, but my slug gun seems to kick like crazy, but not as crisp as that of the big rifles. Call me a wuss, but .338 is just pain to me.

Joel

[Gissert]

The rifle IMO is more of a sharper hit. It is not as bad off hand as it is off a bench.

I was shooting some Kent Fasteel in 12 gauge opener of ducks this year, and found myself thinking the recoil from those was pretty substantial.

Your're not a wuss, LOL. It is not a 'fun' gun to shoot, but a very accurate one. I take the .338 in small doses, not much than a dozen shots per range session.

[Hotspotter]

Giss:

Oh yes I am!

Very good point you bring up, off-hand vs. bench. When sighting in my shotgun a few years ago, an ex-POW WWII vet who runs the range in Wanamingo was out there. Said, "Boy, you got to roll with it!" Great advice, off-hand it's a bit easier to "roll" with the recoil.

Still reminds me of Happy Gilmore, standing in the batting cages, taking baseballs off the chest:

"only 355 days left till Elk season!!!!"

Joel

Only spent one day on the range with a .338, maybe just need to get used to it.

[CrappieJohn]

The old foster type slugs offered up a solid "push" where a rifle seems to pop a guy. Now with sabot slugs getting much faster, we are seeing a considerable degree more mack than before.

I have never been "eyebrowed" by a scope on a rifle. My winchester shotgun with a rifled barrel and scope have nailed me three times using the partition golds in 2 3/4 inch. That's three scars on my baby face's eyebrow. I am not planning to shoot the three inch golds.

When a person is settled in properly for a session at the bench rest, those shotguns can make whiners out of seasoned pros (like me lol). There is a whole lot more absorbtion of recoil when standing and shooting off hand than when nestled in. Can we say ouch?

[yellowsubmarine]

I'll share a quick piece of advice I got a few years ago that has made my range experience much more enjoyable. By far the best recoil pad I've used, not to mention the cheapest.

All you have to do is go to your favorite home improvement type store and buy a piece of 1 1/12" pipe insulation (the kind you wrap your water pipes with). Cut a piece of it just long enough to slip over the but of your gun and you are good to go. I've shot 40+ rounds thru my 7mm mag and a 300 Win mag in a t-shirt and never felt a thing. I was amazed at how much recoil that thing will soak up. I felt it much more on my cheek than I ever did my shoulder.