DRH1175 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I am looking at the Kodiak 450 and the Outlander. Those who have these which way would you go? Also any others that I should take a serious look in this size class. I just want a hard working Fishing/hunting atv that is reliable and a good cold starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleyeguy31 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I have a 2005 polaris 500 HO and would never look further than this for the use you describe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckey Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I have a Kodiak 400 and my brother-in-law has the 450. They are great cold starters. The 450 will go where the 400 won't becaues you can lock the front end. For pure lugging power it's hard to beat the Polaris 500 HO. But then again you have a much heavier machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntnfish Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I have a 400 Sportsman and an Outlander. There are things that I like about each. They both go through about the same amount. I looked at all of the different brands with a 400 class wheeler. I went with the Outlander because it was light, came with a factory 3 year warranty and when you look at the rear end it looks a lot less cluttered than my Polaris. I got the XT package and have been happy with it. Another thing I like it that the radiator is up high, so when you go through a swamp it doesn't collect all the sludge like my Polaris. I think that every maker has good wheelers, it is more of a personal preference. The reason I ruled out the Yamaha from the start was that the salesman wasn't real friendly and acted like it was a burden for him to answer my questions. Whichever choice you make, I don't think it will be a bad one. Good luck with your decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisher Dave Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 I went with the Kodiak 450.. I have an 03 model that has 2600 miles on it now.. 1 set of brake pads, 1 headlight... thats all the maintenence this thing has needed.. and many of my miles were the extremes of *off the beaten path*. My machine started in well below -30 last winter when the truck wouldnt. I havent even had to change a spark plug.. thats a 1st.The extended warranty (3 year) cost me a few extra dollars and I havent had to use it for anything besides the routine check ups for warranty purposes(also pays for them), but that security factor is there is I were to need it in the future.If, and when I buy another machine, it will another Kodiak 450.. it has enough power to do anything I have ever needed it to(including skidding logs day in/day out), and it is considerably lighter than its big brothers(Grizzly's)... If I needed the bigger machine, I'm sure I would go the griz.. but I dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jltimm Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 The Kodiak 450 is only around 10 lbs lighter than the Grizzly,and about $500 more.The Kodiak and the Bomb. are top of the line wheelers in the 400 class.The Bomb. has plastic racks and is a little bigger (bodywise) than the Yamaha.The Kodiak has a differential lock for the front wheels,while the Bomb.doesn't.It uses a system called Visco lock,which works pretty well but not as positive as the differential lock(ALL FOUR wheels are pulling in this model).And yes the polaris's are HEAVY!Sportsman 500 HO =715lbs Bombardier Outlander 400HO =592lbs Yamaha Kodiak 450 = 491lbs. And also for the heck of it Yamaha Grizzly 660 = 600lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisher Dave Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 I could have sworn the grizzlys were heavier.. guess not.I still dont need the extra 200cc's .. I dont plan on buying a 24' bayliner anytime soon and pulling it down the highway with the ATV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole #1 Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 The outlander has true 4 wheel drive, all 4 tires will turn. You can have it in 4x4, but it will run in 2x4 until a wheel slips, then it will transfer power to the wheels that are not slipping. The outlander in my opinion is top of the line in the 400 class, maybee the 500 class too. Look at some professinal atv tests and you'll see the results. It was atv of the year in 2003 for a good reason.Ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burl Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 The outlander is a great machine.Make some differant noises than the rest but seems to be reliable.I would like to know how other guys get them to start when it is real cold.It would not even turn over with the starter when it gets lower than 20-.It would only start with the pull start and that took some pullin.Burl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole #1 Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 I've never had a starting problem in the cold. Never had to pull start it. Did you bring it to the dealer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burl Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 We were on red lake and it was -35 but i have noticed evenwhen it has been below zero it cranks kind of hard even when it has been in the shed.Is this a battery issue?Do they make a battery with more cranking power?Burl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefman Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 I have a '04 Honda rancher 350 ES and my brother has a Bombardier. The rancher is very dependable and a great workhorse. The Outlander has a better suspension. Both 4x4's get used for ice and farm use where we see some rough terrain. Have had some warranty work done on the ES on the Honda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmislandeye Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Polaris over both of um Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonkapat1 Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 one look at a polaris and the weight/quality issue and that will tell u not to buy one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jltimm Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Or you could learn the hard way and buy one,keep fixin it then you'll NEVER own one again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCUMFROG Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Yamaha all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOPPERTHEDOG Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Bomb is coming out with a new 800 that looks/sounds like it will be quite the competitor. Weight of about 660 and 62HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole #1 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I have the 400 and couldn't imagine what the 800 will be like. It must have a lot of power and must be very fast.Ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOPPERTHEDOG Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 It would be twice as good!! LOL (Sorry, I stole that from JB80/WD40 comparison) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripper Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Ole, I have not tried a 800 but in comparing the 6 and 700 to a 5 or 400 there realy isn't any more top end speed just more low end power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jltimm Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Ole is talkin about the Bombardier,not the polaris!The new Bombardier has 62 hp and weights 639 lbs!She is gonna fly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevfish Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 yamaha. I have a 4 year old Kodiak and have noo problems with it at all. pull the 17 ft fish house out in the winter with it and use it bear hunting and dear hunting in the fall- have went across sloughs etc. . no problems at all. I bought mine from a dealer who sold yamaha. polaris and artic cat. when trying to decide they brought me back in their shop and said look around Out of app. 20 machines only one yamaha. the rest were polaris and artic cat. they said they seldom get a yammaha that need s fixin- they just keep on tickin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umdr6 Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 I agree 100%. I also have a 4 year old (2001) Kodiak 400. The thing is a beast in the mud and trails. Knock on wood, but it just doesn't break down!!!!! Buddies Polaris Sportsman 500 HO has been in the shop 7 times in 9 months...Doesn't seem worth it does it? I love the Kodiak! ~umdr6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierBridge Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Quote: when trying to decide they brought me back in their shop and said look around Out of app. 20 machines only one yamaha. the rest were polaris and artic cat. they said they seldom get a yammaha that need s fixin- they just keep on tickin. Wow so Yamaha has reinvented the Wheel, that's amazing we need to spread the word....LOL...... Oh my friends neighbors cousin's great aunt twice removed has had 3 Yamahas and all have been in the shop 11 times in only 3 months, yet her uncles grampa's neice on Clems side has an 88 Polaris Sportman with 13,243 miles and has never been in the shop. Go Figure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jltimm Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 I was just wondering,in 1988 does the polaris odometer go up to 13,000 miles,or is that just a make believe mileage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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