Is Senator Daschle a sportsman?

[Red223]

This week Senator Daschle voted in the Senate to re-authorize the 'Assault Weapon' Ban as it was an Amendment to Bill 1805. Well that doesn't sound too bad. We don't hunt with those things.

Read Senate Bill 1431, pretty much any semi-automatic hunting rifle will now be called an 'assault weapon'.

Senator Kennedy brought an Amendment to the Bill that would of banned all hunting rifle cartridges. Anything that will penetrate body armor he wants classified as 'armor piercing' and banned. Body armor was designed to stop handgun ammo only. They now have a LEVEL IV body armor that will stop a high power rifle with a real steel armor piercing bullet, why ban our hunting ammo?

Senator Daschle should not of voted as he did and everyone needs to let him know that, or fishing is all South Dakotan's will be able to do....Ok so many of you won't mind that...Us hunters do.

Help!!

[Guest]

Where does Thune stand on these topics?

[Foster]

I would strongly suggest that this topic gets dumped. Nothing good ever comes out of an internet discussion about politics...especially on an ice fishing board!

[Try Too Fish]

Foster
I disagree!People(sportsman) have a right to know how there politicians are voting!I also think this is starting out balanced,If Thune voted the same as Daschle Then there is no political difference!Also there is no better place to inform sportsman than a sportsman's forum!Maybe could be moved to the political forum but i question how many people go there.But maybe its just me, just too much good stuff to read on the others!

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[dakotaB]

I have stewed about this post for a couple days now, and I feel compelled to respond. Let me first say that I am an avid sportsman and have been since I was old enough to hold a gun or fishing rod. With that being said, I agree completely with every aspect of the assult weapons ban.
It is true that this would ban the use of some hunting rifles, such as large callibur semi-auto's with a removable magazine. I don't have any problem with that, because it has been my experience that the vast majority of people using these guns for hunting are what I call SLOB HUNTERS.

These are the people who don't understand that 1 shot will kill a deer or other large game. They need their semi-autos to pump 4, 5, 6 more rounds out to kill an animal that is essentially already dead. In doing this quite often they will ruin most of the meat. Or even worse, spray the countryside with an adrenaline rush of rounds without thinking of basic hunter safety. Such as proper backstops, and personal shooting zones.

Anyhow, without ranting too much more, my point is this: True sportsman who have respect for the animals they take and the earth from which they come, do not need these types of weapons.

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Don't let'm throw ya.

[Guest]

Pretty soon there won't be nothing left to ban. If we let them take things one at a time, eventually they'll have it all. Then what?

[walk on water]

I agree with DakotaB, well said. I think their is always to much chicken little and the sky is falling syndrome from the NRA gun groups.

[Guest]

The bottom line is that there was legislation that would have banned all rifle ammunition. Doesn't matter if it was fired from a semi-auto or a Ruger #1. Furthermore, to insinuate that anyone who shoots a semi-auto is some type of slob hunter is asnine. That mentality is what will eventually lead to the end of hunting and sport fishing. Now, 37 senators (all Democrats) voted for the ban. Senator Daschle voted against the ban and should be commended for that.

[Parker]

DakotaB. Your not seriously saying that my .270 with a 4 shot removable clip should be placed in the “assault rifle” category, are you? If so, why don’t we just get it all over with and skip the next 25 years of fighting. Mandate the use of single shots. No problem for me, I’ll just use my Encore. But why stop there? Why not get our legislators to push for the use of muzzleloaders? Better yet, lets get rid of guns all together and force hunter to use bows…as long as they’re not compound….

I’m not a gun nut. All I ask is that we use a little common sense. By the way, I’ve spent 5 rounds out of my rifle in the last 5 years and taken 5 deer. I don’t think it’s fair to label users of semi-auto guns as nuts.

[Reel Inn]

I Am agianst all automatic assult guns.

[Ole1855]

DakotaB,

You're sitting pretty high on that horse aren't you? There are an awful lot of hunters that shoot rifles with multi-shot clips that don't fire 4-5 rounds at an animal!!! This is where these internet debates always go wrong, some people will throw out ridicules statements on the internet because they don't have anyone sitting across the table from anyone that can debate with them. I think your comments are juvenile and not very well thought out!!!

Ole

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[HoleHopper]

I have read posts like DakotaB's befor. We all have. They put there insain hook down, looking for a bite from some logic speaking FM'er. Just to see how much of a rise they can get out of peaple. Speaking sence with them, or trying to have an honost debate with them is a total waist of time. And only fuels there fire.
Good fishin
'Got tarter sauce'?

[mrkastni]

After reading through the 2nd amendment, one can readily see that the Right to Keep and Bear Arms has nothing to do with hunting. Those who are opposed to guns are using the hunting aspect to appeal to the highest number of possible voters and isolate "gun nuts". In my opinion, a Right is a Right, either ban the guns all together, and abolish the 2nd amendment, or leave it as written and leave the "hunters" out of it. I agree that one shot is all that should be needed to take a game animal, but a quick follow up shot is sometimes needed. I have seen many pump guns lay out a second shot almost as fast as a semi, and No gun law has been proven to keep banned guns out of the hands of bad guys.

Just a thought.

Mrkastni

[deadminnowcatcher]

hey there holehopper-I have knot seen you in webster now for a few days- whats up. How is the ice looking on that side of the lake- a few open spots on this side.
Got Perch?
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[muskybuck]

DakotaB,
You are way out of line!!