line spooling problems

[fiskyknut]

Hmmm, iffin I remember right 1993 or '94 maybe that light bulb flicked on for me, the original microdyneema fireline. I still use Fireline over other braids on my flatliners just 'cause it seems a bit more bite resistent than the other superlines.

Superbraids = good stuff

Quality monos = good stuff

I'd say I have more handling problems with braids on spinning setups than I do mono. Mostly nuisance wrapping on/around the tip or guides in wind but both have +'s and -'s. Some spinning reels I've seen are about wothless when spooled with braid. I've seen some reels where the line will go inbetween the bearing and the metal on the bail, cheaper reels with poor tolerance in that area I'd reckon.

No right way no wrong way and everything is a tradeoff eh !!

[Eric_Kruger]

no love for flouro? All the suppleness, and translucent properties of mono, the same no stretch properties of braid.... drop it in a pail of warm water, reel it up....no curly's..\

[20lbSloughShark]

I have never tried fluro as a mainline, but I have as a leader. It does stretch, it just doesn't rubber band back like mono does. It does supposedly have better sensitivity than mono. Also, I like to see my line, but that's a matter of opinion.

[tacklejunkie]

Maybe it's the flouro I use for leaders but it seems pretty stiff to me

[expl]

I use suffix mono and reel it out of the box.On the top of the box flap theres a hole to fish the line thru,put the spool back in close up the box set it on the floor with a book or something with a bit of weight on it and reel,seems to work great for me 95 percent of the time and I will take that.

[Kyhl]

It just has to come off the plastic spool the same way it goes on the reel spool. Put the spools facing each other. Are they both going counter clockwise, or clockwise? Doesn't matter as long as they are the same. Like two people running a rump rope the same direction.

That would work if both the line spool and the reel spool were the same size. I haven't tried it because I've never had a problem spooling it off with a pencil in the middle.

Physics would tell me that after a couple revolutions of pulling it off the face or the bottom it would start twisting because of the different circumferences, even if the directions were match. It would be a nightmare with the directions unmatched.

Spooling it off the face would also insure that the line conforms to the memory of the line spool. I'm not sure how that is a benefit.

I don't use a pencil when the box has a hole in the side. I'm pretty sure they put the hole in the side so that you can spool the line off with one person. It works well even if that wasn't their intention. Just leave the spool in the box and feed the line through the cut out in the side of the box. Close up the box and spool up your reel.

[Kyhl]

In order to take line off a factory-spool in the same way that they put it on is to have to tag line coming from the top or bottom of the spool when the spool sits upright like a wheel.

Think about it.. If you lay a spool on its side and reel it on, each time the line makes a revolution around the spool it twists 360 degrees…. EEEEK!!!

There is 100 yards of line on a spool and for demonstrations purpose, lets say each turn is 8 inches of line per the circumference. 300 ft of line X 12 inches = 3600 total inches of line. 3600/ 8" circumference = 450 full times or 162,000 degrees is how much you twist your line by reeling it onto your spool from the side/ flat position. That, my friend, is why every brand of line you buy seems worthless.

You need to create something simple like this. A run to hardware hank and you'll be covered for about $5-10. [img:left]

What he said.

[delmuts]

OLD?? I'll never grow up, even though I'm 62!!!

I guess I'm diversified when it come to line. I have mono on my pan fish rods,(2,4,and 6)12 # flouro on one bait caster and 6# on a spinning rod that I use for walleye if it is to cold to use braid. I have PP on most of my other rods.(2/10, 8/30, and 20/80 )

They all have their place with plus and minuses.

Having good reels( in good working order) does make a difference.

If you're having trouble. Check you equipment, put the line on the best way you can, relax it if you can, then work with it. I can't remember,( mite be my AGE!!! ) but nothing is ever perfect, but they all have their place.

[Nhamm]

Problem I had for some time was cranking that line on too tight. Spool it on not as tight that seems to help, also when you tie out on to the spool make sure its running the right way from the start. Whoever says braid is the only way to go really is missing the boat on many applications where mono plain out is superior. Keep trying at it, its worth the headache and eventually you'll figure it out.

[Raider4ever]

I love mono. I've put it on everything except my frog rod (50lb 832...Freaking excellent line). The only issue I have with it is twisting on spinning reels, no issues with my BC's. But I just run it out the back of the boat on the way back to the dock, reel it back in and it's all good. I will check my roller bearing as one of the above posters suggested. It's not really a problem for me since I've picked up a spinning rod about three times in the last two years. Going "out of my comfort zone" though this year. Keeping the mono on my WTD/Popper and wakebait rods (it floats and the stretch helps as I'm a little too quick to pull the trigger). Keeping the 832 on the frog rod. Did buy some Fluro to try this year (the less stretch/more sensitive thing intrigues me). Will put it on my big crankbait, my small crankbait, Spinnerbait, and my swimjig rods. Will buy some mono as back-up in case I don't like the fluro. Haven't done this yet, but thinking about putting smaller braid on one of my spinning reels with a fluro leader for drop-shotting (that's a last-case scenario). Will keep mono on the other one just because I hardly use it. I put fluro on a spinning reel once...NEVER AGAIN!!

[tacklejunkie]

When you guys talk about getting the line twist out of mono by letting the line out from behind the boat and dragging it, just so I'm clear is that with no tackle whatsoever on it at slow speeds and for how long

[Raider4ever]

TJ,

Correct, no terminal tackle whatsoever. Once all the line is off the spool, I'll drag it for another 10-15 seconds. I'm pretty sure speed is irrelevant, I go fast enough so the big motor stays on without bogging out. Then just start reeling it in. The reeling back in is what really takes care of the twists, they just float on off the end of the line. Just keep tension on the line as you reel it in (I pinch it pretty hard between my thumb and index finger). I wear one of the gloves I keep on the boat for driving in colder weather (like a work glove from one of the big-box hardware stores in a suburb near you) when I'm reeling in to prevent line burn/cut.

[tacklejunkie]

Do you only have to do it once and the problem is corrected or do you have to repeat each fishing trip?

[delmuts]

If you have done a lot of fishing during the day, then I would relax the lines on your way in. When fishing from shore I try to do it every other time. Just saves some headache.

[Raider4ever]

Depends on what you fish with. If your casting those jigs that just spin through the air like a spiral, do it daily. It's about 3 minutes out of your time on the way in. Watch your lure during flight. I notice that the vast majority of time things like x-Raps fly straight without spiraling. Those, maybe you don't have to. Vert jigging will tell you if you need to or not.