Cost of Electical Inspection Permits

[amateurfishing]

Starting to get my permits in order...can anyone chime in on what my cost should be so i can fill out the online form correctly.

I will have:

2 bedrooms

family room

bathroom

i am planning on 15 amp fuses. I know some things like arc fault fuses, outlets every 4 feet, gcfi for bathroom, etc. question is just regarding the cost of permit & what it is based on. if i do one circuit per room does that mean $6/circuit x 4 circuits=$24...but if minimum is $35/per inspection (i assume i need 2, 1 rough in and 1 final) would i just pay $70 for entire project? all i am doing is starting circuits new circuits at empty fuse slots on control panel.

[ncesi]

You will need to have AFI protection on any added circuits according to the codes so using fuses may be an issue for you. You are correct on the inspection amount. It is $6.00 per circuit but one must pay $35.00 per trip needed which would be one for the roughin and one for the final. Also the state has a $5.00 fee for whatever reason and that would add up to $75.00. Good Luck!!

[fishattacker]

You might want to check into the bathroom circuit. By code now it may have to be 20 amps.

[frazwood]

This is correct. I failed an inspection once-upon-a-time because of this mistake.

[Stcloudangler]

Doing a project almost exact same size as yours, and I just paid 75

[amateurfishing]

doing some research and u r all correct...have to replace normal fuses with arc fault interuptors now and make sure bathroom is 20.

i dont understand how to determine circuit size though. how many recepticles or light housings can u put on any given circuit? bathroom & bedrooms r easy but with a larger family room can i/am i better off using 2 different circuits if possible (30x25 room)? i am anticipating quite a few receptables needed for family room/hallway to meet code.

[Tom7227]

doing some research and u r all correct...have to replace normal fuses with arc fault interuptors now and make sure bathroom is 20.

i dont understand how to determine circuit size though. how many recepticles or light housings can u put on any given circuit? bathroom & bedrooms r easy but with a larger family room can i/am i better off using 2 different circuits if possible (30x25 room)? i am anticipating quite a few receptables needed for family room/hallway to meet code.

Maybe the smart thing to do would be to hire a pro to do a layout/diagram for you and then you do the install. I suspect there's all sorts of things you could screw up such as having something to high or to low, wrong size wire, to many things on one circuit.....

No matter what you do I would suggest that you have a pretty detailed drawing of your final product. Every time I try to do something in my 50 year old house I curse the builder for not having any sort of 'as built' available for reference.

It may seem foolish but have you thought about where you are going to run cable for TV's, computers, telephones, door bell, intercom.....? You may not care now but the kids will at some point. How about roughing in a line for a garage or shed or something like that?

[amateurfishing]

cable & phone r good...intercom & doorbell not necessary

i can understand a drawing for going to store & knowing how much of what to buy but after drywall is up kind of a mute point, no?

[sparky27]

Only bathroom outlets need to be on 20 amp circuit. Outlets need to be within 6' of a doorway/closet. Every 12' there after. For how many outlets you need depends on the load. Usually 8-12 openings including lights is a safe way to go.

[sparky27]

For what you described i would hit both bedrooms on one 15 amp circuit. Bathroom outlet 20 amp circuit. Two 15's for family and catch bath lights off one of those. Make sure you pull indivdual wires for the circuits for arc fault purposes. Will also need a smoke detector in each bedroom, plus co 2 / smoke detector within 10' of each bedroom interconnected.

[BobT]

I think Tom's advice is good. There is a bit of misinformation floating in this thread and it would be a good idea to get that ironed out ahead of time. Nothing like getting it ready for rough-in and finding out you have tear it all out and start over.

[JohnMickish]

For what you described i would hit both bedrooms on one 15 amp circuit. Bathroom outlet 20 amp circuit. Two 15's for family and catch bath lights off one of those. Make sure you pull indivdual wires for the circuits for arc fault purposes. Will also need a smoke detector in each bedroom, plus co 2 / smoke detector within 10' of each bedroom interconnected.

That is a great plan.

Don't forget that with the 2011 code change you have to bring a neutral to each opening and no re-identifying wires too.

AFCIs for every outlet (not receptacle, but outlet, there is a difference) that is not protected by a GFCI. Remember, this stuff is all easy.

[SkunkedAgain]

My basement remodel was a 15x30 room and I ran two new 20amp circuits for the lights and receptacles. You need to count up how much power each outlet and light fixture will use in order to determine the correct number of circuits to run. Sparky27 laid out a good plan, and he probably knows a ton more than me, but only you know what you plan to use for power. This is the time to make sure that your rooms have ample power for whatever your needs may be. Don't skimp.

I'm in Richfield and had to put in new arc-fault breakers for any circuits that I touched, plus all of the outlets needed to listed as Tamper Resistant. All I can say is to find the best TR outlets that you can find. I think that many of the ones that you find at a big box home improvement store are junk. I can't count how many times I've fought to work a plug into an outlet because of the lame tamper resistant plastic plate.

[amateurfishing]

was planning on 1 circuit for family room receptacles & 1 for lighting,i 1 circuit for bathroom GCFI, 1 for bath & hallway lights, then either 1 for each bedroom or tie bedrooms together...depending on panel space

am aware of the smoke/co2 detectors

when reading the code "verbage", is there a way to find the definition of "outlet" or pulling wires? from a book or professional? if i inquire a professional for advice, what license(s) should they have?