Tips of working two baits

[Scoot]

Title for this thread should be "Tips on working two baits". Tried to edit it, but it won't let me edit my title. I am literate (mostly).

Looking for tips on working two baits-
1) a 10" suick. As I understand working this guy, simply reel in at a steady retrieve while giving it a good hard and long jerk every couple of seconds. Sound right?

2) Hog wobbler- medium speed stady retrieve keeping the lure just on the top of the water. How's that sound?

I realize the general rules of "speed it up" and "slow it down" and "mix it up a little bit" apply here, but generally speaking, am I on the right track above?
Scoot

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[TomWehler]

Right on as far as mixing them or it up.
Hoggwobbler can do many things.
But used as a Topwater slow is grand.

Suicks ALL seem to work different.
I like the 10" inch to toss in open Weed pockets and let it sit a bit.
Get it to dance some and twitch, then swim it out, then rest in another weed pocket.
Good in shallow rock also.
Bend tails some to get them to dance an quiver as you reel.
Don't take much to trigger a strike, and it is hard to just let them sit.
But it can payoff BIG time.

You can also jerk and crank them, but that depends on time of season, where your fish, where fish are hanging and what the fish tell you they want.
Good baits, have fun with them.

T.

Mallard Island
Lake Vermilion

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[Guest]

The "grand suick", definitely my go to bait when things get sloppy. Jusy give the bait tail a few adjustments to make the bait work for you,everybody has a little different way of working the rod. I had trouble when I first starting using them years ago, when I had to do every thing fast. Try "sweeping" it at first in clear water so you can see it work slow once you get the feel for that you can easily start speeding it up and changing it up. The tail is critical to the suicks action,tiny adjustment make a world of change,up/down-side/side. The operation of a suick is a art,that must come to you in a vision after hours of practice. Hang in there the suick will pay you back for your time many times over.

[Wildlineman]

How do you like your Suicks to look in the water? How do bend tail (specifically)? What I'm getting at is what motion of a Suick seems to trigger strikes?

Much thanks,
Shayne

[Steve Foss]

It's not that simple. Different days and different fish bring different triggers. I like to set mine to dive sharply on the tug (bend tail metal down) right off the bat.

But that only lasts until I've made a bunch of casts over prime pike water without a fish or with a follow but no take (same in musky water, the half dozen times I've fished for Esox Sr.)

You can twist the tail a bit and the bait goes to the side. Sometimes that does it. You can leave the tail straight and the bait won't dive as hard, and that works some days.

I also start my day with steady cranking on the handle and short sharp frequent jerks, chaning when I think I need to. Some days fish will hit if you leave it on the surface and twitch it.

Just no tellin' until you're out there. If nothing else, it's a great arm/shoulder workout. You'll never see a veteran jerkbaiter with skimpy shoulders and arms.

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[saintmark]

My clad has used both of those baits in Canada. My nephew has a black suick that is just beat to heck. The trebles have scratched the paint in patterns that seem to make it work better. His basic pattern is cast and jerk that sucker in. No fancy dance or float-stop-jeck-twitch etc,etc Once he get it about 3/4 the way in, he just reels and recasts back in the weeds. I'm sure the pureist out there will say it's wrong, but a 55 inch muskie, and 3 muskies in 3 casts last year. Hey can't beat that. I got a black suick last year and started rubbing the hooks on the body to get it scratch -up.
As for the wobbler. About the same. Just reel that sucker in. My clad really doesn't use them. We got them but never seem to make it out of the box. I suppose this might beto simple, but it's defininately works for us.Stm

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And good luck out there!

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[guideman]

Hey Guys,
The Creeper is one if not the Best flat
water baits ever made. The problem is that most people work them way to fast.

The "Creeping Tom" from Slam'er, is the best in my opinion. They were designed to work the best in calm flat water and they excell in low light conditions.

The key to success with a creeper is an easy one, work them S_L_O_W. You want to get the bait to make that plop, plop
sound as you retreive it.

I like them over rocks but they also do well in the weeds and out on the deep weed edge. All of mine are black but I hear they get them on some other colors as well.

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Terry "Ace" Sjoberg
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