Thoughts On 220's

[bemidjibasser]

I may be wrong, but I think Johnny P was using a little bit of sarcasm. Not much, just a little...

[Random guy]

I have got to believe you can see the flaw in this line of reasoning. Unlike the placement of traps lightning and killer bees are pretty much out of the control of humans. Flawed logic and idiotic comparisons don't arouse sympathy or allies.

How bout you dismount your white horse and enjoy some good humor like the rest of us. Wow, wound up tighter than a 2cent top.

[Random guy]

Unless the road to your cabin has been flooded by beaver...

Or the racoons got in and trashed the cabin. Now we wasted the valuable gas in the valuable car on the way to the devalued cabin but at least we squashed the valueless trapper.

It’s a vicious circle of devaluation!

I'm sorry but this whole deal has grown so far out of proportion it has become ridiculous. So I feel ridiculous answers work the best. Realistic logic has been thrown out the window and the crying of wolf is becoming very apparent. In fact I got a voicemail about a roadway/culvert crossing flooding from a feed bed under the ice and they want a trapper to come in and get the beaver out before they attempt to fix it again. I may tell them I am of no value and they will have to figure out how to "legislate" the beaver out.

[wh1stler]

Unless the road to your cabin has been flooded by beaver...

This is funny. I'm sitting here with half smirk on my face. I like this humor.

BTW...I don't have a white horse. I have a white pickup, is that close enough?

[Ray1]

You guys forgot about lyme disease and westnile. Jeesh. Not only that but then a kid could be out playing and get bit by a rabid skunk or coon too. The people that want 220s off the ground need to be edjucated.

[Random guy]

Great Ray! Now I have to wear a rubberized (for lightning) full body bug suit to stop the west nile AND killer bees. I just know I'm going to get hurt outside; I'm changing it to "Indoors with Jonny P".

On a somewhat serious note did anybody catch the "Raccoon Nation" TV show. It was pretty interesting how raccoons have been slowly creeping into urban areas and basically evolving/adapting into a fully functional urban creature just like pigeons or squirrels. They made the comment about how raccoons they collared and tracked have territory divided by major roads. Basically each city block has its own family group. They figure the cars are the only threat these raccoons have making them divide and conquer one block at a time. In China they have gotten so bad the Chief Biologist or gal in charge said it is her job to make sure they exterminate as many as they can as fast as they can.

[Saw557]

I swore to myself I was going set this out because there is no common sense or logic behind alot of the excuse people are trying to use to ban trapping. But now the "shed hunters" are coming to the plate. Last I knew the vast majority of deer up north dont loose their antlers until after trapping season is closed....maybe things are different south of 694 ??? Whats next 4th of july party goers are worried their dog will be caught in a water set. Give me a frickin break. I have yet to see a "dog hunter" other than myself in two different posts (look it up) offer up any kind of compromise all they want to do is ban. How many of these anti's have made a water set and realize the impact of having to completely submerge the trap. Instead sitting around pointing fingers and bit*hing about it why not find a workable compromise. I am done.......maybe

[Ray1]

"Indoors with Jonny P".

Now that is funny. Indoors with Jonny P braught to you by Jonny. Please support our sponsers: sharmin toilet paper, Bic pens, and auquanet hair spray.Jonny says "And for those of you that would like to talk trapping, hunting, or fishing please just trust what i say to you over the internet on a forum. I have not been outdoors but i could only imagine that the fish are bitting over by the heave." LOL.

[9339za]

Who said anything about banning body grip traps?

How do trappers in other states catch bobcats without body grip traps? Or this state?

All I'm reading is a bunch of paranoia.

Are trappers in other states really that much better than Minnesota trappers?

If anyone thinks this issue is going to get better or go away they've been out of touch in the bush for too long.

Adapt or die is the choice we have and I really hope you don't drag me down with you.

[JBar]

Who said anything about banning body grip traps?

How do trappers in other states catch bobcats without body grip traps? Or this state?

All I'm reading is a bunch of paranoia.

Are trappers in other states really that much better than Minnesota trappers?

If anyone thinks this issue is going to get better or go away they've been out of touch in the bush for too long.

Adapt or die is the choice we have and I really hope you don't drag me down with you.

How would you go about catching a bobcat in northern MN?

[Trashguy]

9339za +1

Ray1 wrote: "The people that want 220s off the ground need to be edjucated" and maybe the people that set them too. Its spelled "educated" Long as we are in the humorous post mode....

[Saw557]

Once again more bullsh*t and no talk of a solution. So hows this for a compromise some people have mentioned a 4' leash for hunting dogs now being a bird hunter myself with two NAVHDA registered pointing dogs I find this way to restrictive so I propose a 20' leash for upland hunting and a 10' leash for waterfowl. Speaking of waterfowl hunting maybe upland season should be shortened to 60 days like waterfowl instead of the 100 plus days it is now to harvest your 10 bird limit. Compare that to the 9 days I have to catch 5 martin/fisher or the approx 40 days to catch 5 bobcat. One thing is true this issue isn't going away and neither is the fact life is full of risks get a grip or stay in your insulated, sanatized,climate controlled, cubicle

[9339za]

How would you go about catching a bobcat in northern MN?

In footholds like I always do. This year is no problem but if there is a lot of snow I just put the sets under a thick balsam with a couple extra boughs added above. Beyond that they aren't any harder to catch than a coon. You just have to position your lures so the cat can't put it's nose right on them and use guide sticks.

[JBar]

If you're getting your 5 cats a year in foot holds in northern MN I will take any advice you can give. Do you trap full time or part time before and after work?

[JBar]

The reason I say this is I know first hand that if you're running all foot holds and taking a limit which I don't know if you are or not just an assumption, you are running less traps than you would be running lines with coni's and a 3 day tending period. Cat season has very limited day light I've run both types of sets on cat lines and I know what has worked for me and I've never been able to make enuff foot hold sets that I can possibly check in one day with work constraints. How else are you keeping sets from freezing in even under balsam. I've made many sets under balsam, spruce, cedar, under cubbies that i've had foot holds in with waxed dirt in the trap bed I still have them freeze come December. What lures are you using?

[Random guy]

Adapt or die

I got it! Breed dogs with bigger heads! Bobble Head Beagles!

While we wait for breeding

And what does the expanding raccoon population think of using dogs as the excuse to be trap free?

Oh I'm so gonna get hate mail for this one.

[JBar]

I vote for the center picture!!!!

[Random guy]

Not saying ban the dogs just change how they are used.

Now dogs won't get in traps, fences, dig out badger dens, cut up their tounges and ears on grass and other trouble dogs get into. I bet we could get camo and orange cones to keep the dogs looking as good as the Bennelli!

[JBar]

Yes sir the center picture is an perfect comprosmise dog kept from harm and allowed to roam the wild north.

[Tinkhamtown]

Today’s joke is tomorrow’s serous matter. Six dead dogs because of conibear traps is a laughing matter to you, but I am sure it is not funny to the owners. Not hunting or going on the public lands because you fear for your dog’s safety because of traps is serious.

Public land, State and National forests do not belong to just trappers so they can kill to make a living.

An online petition (see http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/mark-dayton-governor-minnesota/) to outlaw body-gripping traps on public land.

[Random guy]

So suggesting outlandish one sided ideas about how to change standard methods of use directed at a selected group is not funny, and actually found offensive? Huh, imagine that.

I don't want to ban dogs but just change how they are used.

[NORTHCRAZE]

Johnny P

So if you are serious about saying

"I don't want to ban dogs but just change how they are used."

Can't I say

"I don't want to ban traps but just change the way they are used.?

I'LL wait for your reply

[swampman]

Real usefull petition there, got people from asia, europe south africa and japan voting on policy in mn.

[jparrucci]

Kstp HSOforum has an updated number, according to them at least twenty dogs have been killed in the last year.

[NORTHCRAZE]

Kstp HSOforum has an updated number, according to them at least twenty dogs have been killed in the last year.

I've heard 25 + and how many you think are never reported or just thrown in ditches?