Spielman new GM of Vikes

[pikestabber]

The muddy Vikings "front office," if you can even call it a front office, received some clarity today with the hiring of Spielman as the new GM. I am 100% for this move. There will be lots of hate on this board for promoting the guy that drafted many of the sub-par players we have, but he also drafted some amazing talent and I think he is the right guy for the job. With no GM, this program had a zero percent chance of making it anywhere, so this is a step in the right direction IMO.

[MuleShack]

I'm all for the GM position, but to promote the guy who created the situation is not the answer. Spielman cant even fire the coach or the coaching staff, only make player decisions. This was only a PR move on the vikings part and not in any way a move to change/improve the franchise. Another tale of nothing changing and no improvement.

Any by the way, the draft picks we did get that were good, dropped into our laps because the players had issues and others passed on them. We didn't get anything good out of players that our GM targeted.

[bucketmouth64]

Bill Polian or Rick Spielmann, hmmm. Once again a swing and a miss. Is Spielmann going to have total control over all football moves? He should start looking at scouting dept., and some of the coaching staff if he's going to keep Leslie.

[Musky Buck]

Based on talent we're in trouble at so many positions it's ugly. Without a top tier QB we're not touching the 20 teams ahead of us for awhile Rick Spielman or not. You need that top QB so you have 15 years of never worrying about drafting 1. You fill in your roster from there once again it's Brees,Brady,Rothlesberger,Rodgers,Manning(Eli) recognize any of those names from the past few years of playoff football. Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco need stellar defensive efforts to win.

[pikestabber]

Any by the way, the draft picks we did get that were good, dropped into our laps because the players had issues and others passed on them. We didn't get anything good out of players that our GM targeted.

Adrian Peterson "fell in our lap" because of issues? What college player hasn't had an injury? And what about Toby Gerhart? Kyle Rudolph? What issues did they have? And Percy smoked a little hooch...too bad we picked him, too, huh? Talent scouting transcends the minor issues and looks at the bigger picture. I think our talent scouting is very good.

[zepman]

The Vikings draft picks (the last 5 years) in rounds 2-6 have been mind blowingly bad. Letter grade: F

My 12 year old son can step up to the podium and say names like Adrian Peterson and Percy Harvin.

To say our talent scouting is good (or very good) is one thing...the picks based off that information tells another story completely.

[pikestabber]

To say our talent scouting is good (or very good) is one thing...the picks based off that information tells another story completely.

In 2009, it said with the right strategies in place, we came within one play of reaching the Superbowl, and that team was augmented by guys drafted under our current GM, several of whom fell into the 2-7 rounds that you graded an F. Drafting isn't an exact science...there are hits and misses in all levels for all teams, but I personally think we have had more hits than misses with Spielman.

[Musky Buck]

Also depends on how many bodies you "need" to draft, it's nice when you have 2-3 holes to fill unlike the vikes who have mega holes to fill, until Mr. Rodgers leaves GB how many times will we beat GB when he's running the show let alone NE,NO,Pitt,Balt we're not at their level and can only beat those teams 2 out of 10 times so we're nowhere in the football world plus both RB's needing knee surgery, we're a trainwreck.

[LMITOUT]

The Vikings draft picks (the last 5 years) in rounds 2-6 have been mind blowingly bad. Letter grade: F

My 12 year old son can step up to the podium and say names like Adrian Peterson and Percy Harvin.

To say our talent scouting is good (or very good) is one thing...the picks based off that information tells another story completely.

Yup.

[Ybone]

Well here's a few 2nd round or later that are not mind blowingly bad, Sidney Rice, Kyle Rudolph,Sullivan,Robison,Toby Gerhart, Joe Webb, Chris Cook, Jasper Brinkley. Also two 3rd rounders were thrown in with a 1st for Jarod Allen.

[LMITOUT]

Well here's a few 2nd round or later that are not mind blowingly bad, Sidney Rice, Kyle Rudolph,Sullivan,Robison,Toby Gerhart, Joe Webb, Chris Cook, Jasper Brinkley.

[amateurfishing]

THEE problem i hate to say with my most favorite franchise in all the world IS the owners. as much as i love them and i know they want only what is best for the Vikings and their fans it makes absolutely no sense EVER to only interview 1 person for a position and ironically it keeps happening over and over again here, how can u possibly know if u have the right person for the job if you never interview more than 1? first chili, then fraiser, now spielman? wether he is the right one for gm or not will take 4-5 years to see, he did not have a good track record @ miami. i am really suprised the wilfs are not talking to other ownership groups about how they run their organization and how they find the ppl to do it. sadly the wilfs ownership group r the ones really learning on the fly here & so far their decision making is very questionable and not looking well.

[MuleShack]

Adrian Peterson "fell in our lap" because of issues? What college player hasn't had an injury? And what about Toby Gerhart? Kyle Rudolph? What issues did they have? And Percy smoked a little hooch...too bad we picked him, too, huh? Talent scouting transcends the minor issues and looks at the bigger picture. I think our talent scouting is very good.

Yes, we got lucky that those players dropped into our laps...if they didn't who knows what other mediocre players they would have drafted. Peterson, Gerhart, Harvin were all in the running for the Heisman...Duh what bone head wouldn't take them if they fell into their laps. What else do we have to speak of for picks where "the triangle" had to do their research and come out with a win? And wasn't Rudolph listed as the highest rated TE in college, so there is really a stretch also. Go fish...

[MuleShack]

In 2009, it said with the right strategies in place, we came within one play of reaching the Superbowl, and that team was augmented by guys drafted under our current GM, several of whom fell into the 2-7 rounds that you graded an F.

And the next year with out Farve, we went 6-10 with the same players

[TR21HP]

Muleshack, How did the Colts do this year without Manning and the same players and coaches? The Q.B. now a days in this pass happy league is one of the few players that can turn around a team in 1 year, especially one as gifted as Favre or Manning for that manner.

[pikestabber]

And the next year with out Farve, we went 6-10 with the same players

You make my point. With the same players, why did we lose 6 more games? Other teams game planned for us, injuries mounted up, and our coaching staff didn't recognize that soon enough. I guess I don't see what you're grinning about? You're happy I'm right?

[MuleShack]

Yea i see...

Your saying the other terms are better than our coaches, our free agents and our draft picks

Your right!!

[LMITOUT]

So the Vikings are interviewing the just fired Morris from Tampa Bay Tampa Bay for a defensive coach position... What, isn't giving up 28 points per game enough? He'll work well with the Singletary, the coach fired by SF.

BRILLIANT Spielman!

[Ybone]

Maybe they are taking your advice and trying to lose next year so they can get a better draft choice.

[FISHINGURU]

So the Vikings are interviewing the just fired Morris from Tampa Bay Tampa Bay for a defensive coach position... What, isn't giving up 28 points per game enough? He'll work well with the Singletary, the coach fired by SF.

BRILLIANT Spielman!

Spielman doesn't do the hiring or firing of coaches.

The only good thing we have going for us is Spielman and Mike Mayock are good friends, Mayock knows alot about the guys in the draft, but drafting is 99% luck. There's no way to tell who will be a superstar, who's a diamond in the rough, who will be injury plagued, ect.

[zepman]

Morris would be a HUGE upgrade for our defensive backfield.

[LMITOUT]

He is the general manager. His job is to oversee operations and I would think that also includes approving what coaches are interviewed and then taking the recommendation higher up for approval. However, I would be very surprised if he didnt have the authority to hire assistant coaches. If Speilman didn't have a hand in this in some fashion then what good is this new GM position?

Morris must be another one of Leslies 'buds'...just like the other two winners, McNabb and Singletary. LOL!

[LMITOUT]

Morris would be a HUGE upgrade for our defensive backfield.

Is he going to play? You could stick anybody back there and it would be a huge upgrade.

LOL!

[fishersofmen]

He is the general manager. His job is to oversee operations and I would think that also includes approving what coaches are interviewed and then taking the recommendation higher up for approval. However, I would be very surprised if he didnt have the authority to hire assistant coaches. If Speilman didn't have a hand in this in some fashion then what good is this new GM position?

It was just a PR move to give people without a brain the idea that the team has made some defining changes. He said himself what happens with Leslie Frazier is up to the owners and what happens with the assistant coaches is up to Frazier. In other words Speilman is basically in the same position he has been in. He does not have the same power a GM would typically have according to his own words. The owners of this team have no clue what they are doing and assume Vikings fans are complete idiots.

[zepman]

It's quite a different role now than before. It's true about the coach and his assistants...no denying that. But, Spielman and Spielman alone, will be the man in charge of the players brought to or from this team. That includes trades, draft picks, signings, releases etc....

Childress had all of that authority when he was here and it was a mumbled cluster the past year as to who had that authority.

Now, at least we know.