Candyland Fails Post-Race Inspection @ Pocono

[LMITOUT]

[gregg52]

oh boy we go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

another week of bad boy kyle !!!!! lol

[harvey lee]

I typically do not put much into these inspections as so many things can change on a car while racing.

We will have to wait and see what the infraction is before we tear him apart and call him a cheater.

[HOF#13]

From jayski...

#18 fails inspection UPDATE 2: The #18 M&M's Toyota of Kyle Busch failed post race inspection at Pocono with a height issue on the left-front end. The car will be taken to NASCAR's R&D center, any penalties normally announced Tuesday.

UPDATE: Kyle Busch's third place finishing car in Sunday's 5-Hour Energy 500 at Pocono raceway failed post race inspection. Busch's Joe Gibbs Racing Toyota was found to be too low after NASCAR officials inspected it three times following Sunday's race. Busch's left front was too low and NASCAR will take the car back to its R&D Center in Concord, N.C. While he will be allowed to keep his third place finish a fine and points penalty will more than likely be assessed. "it's the last thing I expected - I have as many questions as you," said crew chief Dave Rogers.(CBS Sports)

UPDATE 2: NASCAR officials said the front left was too low on the Joe Gibbs Racing Toyota. Crew chief Dave Rogers said the car was 1/16th of an inch outside the tolerances already allowed by the governing body. Because the car passed pre-race inspection Rogers speculated the violation was the result of a broken part. Because NASCAR doesn't typically differentiate whether the violation was intentional or unintentional, Busch faces a potential fine, points deduction or both. He currently is fifth in points, 25 behind leader Carl Edwards who lost his big lead after an engine failure left him 37th at the 2.5-mile track. Rogers said it was a "huge surprise'' when NASCAR informed him the car failed and would be taken to the Research and Development Center in Concord, N.C., for further evaluation. "It's disappointing," Rogers said. "I can't tell you a whole lot right now. We sit on bump stops in these race cars. Your springs often don't damage. We were struggling all weekend and we went back to what we raced last spring when we finished second. We put the same package in -- same front shocks, same front springs. We went through tech just fine last year, but obviously everything has a year on it and everything is mileaged out. I don't have any excuses for you. It's the last thing I expected after the race." Rogers said there was a lot of damage on the left front fender, apparently from bottoming out on the rough Pocono surface. He said Busch also got into the fence on the right side. "There is plenty of body damage, but nothing that I could look at and say,'Hey, NASCAR, here's a problem,'" Rogers said. "I would just be trying to make excuses if I tried to justify it."(ESPN.com)(6-12-2011)

[HOF#13]

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- NASCAR has penalized the No. 18 team in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series as a result of rule infractions discovered during post-race inspection Sunday at Pocono Raceway.

The No. 18 car was found to be in violation of Sections 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing); 12-4-J (any determination by NASCAR officials that race equipment used in the event does not conform to NASCAR rules); and 20-12.8.1B (body height requirements -- car failed to meet the minimum front car heights) of the 2011 NASCAR rule book.

As a result, crew chief Dave Rogers has been fined $25,000, while owner Joe Gibbs and driver Kyle Busch have been penalized with the loss of six championship owner and six championship driver points, respectively.

[LMITOUT]

We will have to wait and see what the infraction is before we tear him apart and call him a cheater.

How about now?

[harvey lee]

Yes , limit he is guilty but of what I do not know.

I highly doubt they cheated but with some car damage the ride height easily could have changed that little.

I do not and have never cared for the 18 team but with this infraction, I highly doubt they cheated.

Many teams have been penalized for like infractions and I would guess the higher percentage were not from trying to cheat.

[GatorBait]

Well, they all cheat, some are just better at getting away with it than others.

[harvey lee]

Personally I do not believe they all cheat per say.

I will say to have a competitive team and race car, one needs to push the rules to the limit.

In kyle's last issue with ride height, one can be close and legal and the car can settle during a race or get damaged during a race and then not pass tech.

We do not know for sure what happened in the 18 case.

Now, if they were off on the ride height a ton, that might be a different story as long as a crash did not effect the car's ride height.

If one does try to push the rules to far, sooner or later NASCAR will catch them so there is no reason to take that chance due to the penalties and fines and point's loss.

Will some still cheat, maybe.

[lawdog]

I don't think this violation is a huge deal but lets not forget Dave Rogers is a HUGE cheater. Wasn't he one of clowns involved in putting magnets behind the gas pedal so when NASCAR tested it it didn't go all the way to wide open... I know I remember he got suspended for a lengthy period at one point.

[harvey lee]

You got that one correct LD. Without a doubt, they were cheating all the way.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/27945...ng-in-two-weeks

[GatorBait]

Well, as DW once said "If you don't cheat, you look like an [PoorWordUsage]."

[harvey lee]

Kyle listened well and seems to have the cheating down.