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Perch Patrol Truck goes in on Devils Lk!

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TooTallTom Mentor

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I'm sure this is floating around somewhere...

Was that an intentionally funny choice of words?

I'm glad that everyone got out okay.

And I'm kind of suprised that it took a minute and a half for the truck to sink. Is that slowish, or pretty normal for a truck going through the ice? (I usually think of one big, instantaneous crash through...)

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A vehicle has to get rid of the air inside it in order to sink quickly. Usually takes a little time for that to happen. Also, it often gets caught a bit on the ice after it breaks through, which also slows the sinking and, hopefully, gives an alert angler time to get out before permanently residing in Davy Jones' Locker.

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Okay, thanks for the info Steve. I guess I've always had it in my head that you'd go from driving to wet (or at least floating), just like that.

I guess the delay makes sense when you think about the fact that it's not the strength of the ice by itself holding you up, but the fact that the ice is floating on the water column. Seems like you can kind of break through in stages as the ice gives way.

One of my cousins put a wheel through on URL, and I just always assumed that he got really lucky. And he did, because he was able to drive out, but maybe staying on top of the ice wasn't as much of a long shot as I thought...

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Correct, TTT, lake ice isn't like glass and rarely shatters. Lots of times, portions of vehicles go through but not the whole vehicle, and often they can either be backed up under their own power or pulled back out of the hole with a tow strap, etc.

Once an enclosed vehicle actually goes in completely, people have to open the doors or break the windows to get out, and that DEFINITELY lets all the air escape. It's very hard to open doors against that water pressure, and breaking windows is nearly impossible without an aid.

Best thing I've ever seen as far as breaking windows in an emergency is to keep a tack sharp icepick in the glove box, with a piece of cork or something else to protect the tip. You press the tip against the middle of the window and bear down on it and it exerts enough pressure in just that tiny spot that it will shatter the window. Saw it done before, too. Very effective!

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A vehicle has to get rid of the air inside it in order to sink quickly. Usually takes a little time for that to happen. Also, it often gets caught a bit on the ice after it breaks through, which also slows the sinking and, hopefully, gives an alert angler time to get out before permanently residing in Davy Jones' Locker.

I can't say for sure because I've never been in this situation, but I'd have to think that knowing it takes over a minute to go down I'd probably try and rescue at least some of the more valuable items (once everyone is safely out of the vehicle, of course) before she sunk.

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Correct, TTT, lake ice isn't like glass and rarely shatters. Lots of times, portions of vehicles go through but not the whole vehicle, and often they can either be backed up under their own power or pulled back out of the hole with a tow strap, etc.

Once an enclosed vehicle actually goes in completely, people have to open the doors or break the windows to get out, and that DEFINITELY lets all the air escape. It's very hard to open doors against that water pressure, and breaking windows is nearly impossible without an aid.

Best thing I've ever seen as far as breaking windows in an emergency is to keep a tack sharp icepick in the glove box, with a piece of cork or something else to protect the tip. You press the tip against the middle of the window and bear down on it and it exerts enough pressure in just that tiny spot that it will shatter the window. Saw it done before, too. Very effective!

I couldn't help but laugh at that, thinking of what my own reaction would be. I would be SO far away from there in about 1/2 second. If the truck is coming out under it's own power, it wouldn't be with me inside :-)

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You're right, dtro, not funny at all. But I tend to laugh at really black/ inappropriate stuff. However, I wouldn't be joking around at the moment if someone had gotten seriously injured or dead.

Yeah, I think there was probably some head scratching going on. At least they had another couple of truck to pile into, instead of having to walk. I don't think my knees would be real reliable after something like that.

And I don't think I'd be going back in after stuff. I might grab whatever was next to me on my way out (So I'd save a bag of chips or something... grin) but I don't think you can count on setting your watch and having so much time to get stuff out. Just too much downside/ risk for the reward.

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Not a funny situation at all, but I had to chuckle about the piece of ice floating back to the top and filling in the hole. You know you are having a bad day when that happens...

That was the scary part for me the ole Trap Door effect. It's tough enough to find the hole you went down through but there was no chance for anybody in that vehicle to make it out in this scenario. crazy

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Once an enclosed vehicle actually goes in completely, people have to open the doors or break the windows to get out, and that DEFINITELY lets all the air escape. It's very hard to open doors against that water pressure, and breaking windows is nearly impossible without an aid.

That's why I always take my seatbelt off and roll my window down when driving on lakes. It makes escaping easier. I'll sacrifice being cold for a few minutes if it prevents me from being dead forever.

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I often have the door cracked open also to go along with Ruby's other suggestions!

I'm getting out quick. I even have the Roll away from the truck planned out visually... grin

I think it was Buddy from Red Lake, road a plow truck top to bottom and thankfully got out a few years back!...

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That's why I always take my seatbelt off and roll my window down when driving on lakes. It makes escaping easier. I'll sacrifice being cold for a few minutes if it prevents me from being dead forever.

Same here. Hell, I keep one hand on the door lever too.

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