warmwaterflyfisher Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Does anyone have experience with the jet outboards? I currently have a 1654 tracker grizzle that I run up and down most of the rivers with but cant determin if I should use a small jack plate or upgrade to a 40 hrs jet outboard to allow me more access to the upper mississippe and st. crioux rivers. Any inpute is appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmwaterflyfisher Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 OK maybe a bad questions...LOL How can I get this deleted from the listings so it just doesnt hang out on the board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deitz Dittrich Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I can delete it if you wish.. IF I had the choice, I would go with the jet drive, it will go shallower than the jack plate.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherpa Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I spend a lot of time in Alaska and jet outboards are very popular in the rivers up there. I believe there is some loss of power compared to a prop driven outboard with the same HP. I have no experience with jack plates so I can't compare the two for you. Good luck, I'm interested to know what you find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatfixer Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 In your case I would go with a jet. Jack plates are typically used in higher performance situations where the gearcase is lifted further out of the water to lessen drag. They are often used in conjunction with gearcase nose cones, low water pick ups and props designed to break the surface at high speeds. If I'm assuming correctly, you just want to run in shallower water with out damaging a lower unit, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.D. Ice Angular Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I agree with the previous postsI would go Jet Drive also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northlander Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Go jet unless you plan to troll at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Turner Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Proper set up is key to good performance. That said, a 1654 should be a great hull for a 90/65 or 60/40 OB Jet unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ec30_06 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I would go with the jet. Get the biggest one you can put on there. If your boat is rated for a 40 hp I would go with a 60/40 ob jet. I have a 115/80 on a roughneck flat bottom that will run as shallow as Kevin turners boats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmwaterflyfisher Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 SWEET INFO. I'm new to the boat game since I fly fish is mostly a wading game. But fly rodding for bass...need a boat. You all gave me GREAT feed back. Now the question can you find a good usedjet drive and how or do you just trad in the new 25hrs prop outboard for a new jet outboard?I can't thank you enough for the feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmwaterflyfisher Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 actually I'd like to keep it up now that others have responded. I'm just trying get help and everyone has good input. Thanks though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAMAN Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 I would go with the jet. Get the biggest one you can put on there. If your boat is rated for a 40 hp I would go with a 60/40 ob jet. I have a 115/80 on a roughneck flat bottom that will run as shallow as Kevin turners boats So you go with the jet HP not the motor HP when figuring maximum HP the boat can handle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Turner Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Copied from the CG's site.Can I use a bigger motor on my boat than what it's rated for? It is not a violation of Coast Guard regulations to install or use an engine larger than specified on the capacity label, but there may be state regulations prohibiting it, and restrictions from your own insurance company regarding this. There are no Coast Guard regulations against exceeding the safe loading capacity, however, there may be State regulations or restrictions from your insurance company which prohibit this. There is a Coast Guard regulation that gives Coast Guard Boarding Officers the power to terminate the use of a boat (send it back to shore) if, in the judgment of the Boarding Officer, the boat is overloaded. There is no fine for this, unless the operator refuses the Boarding Officer's order. We certainly hope that you will abide by the rating, as overloading may lead to capsizing or swamping of the boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinDak Hunter Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Minnesota Statute86B.311 GENERAL RULES FOR OPERATION.Subdivision 1.Safe operation.A person may not operate or allow the operation of a watercraft or use a device relating to the use of the watercraft:(1) in a careless or heedless manner in disregard of the rights or safety of others;(2) in a reckless or grossly negligent manner that causes personal injury to another or damage to the property of another;(3) upon the waters of this state without the equipment required by this chapter and the rules adopted under this chapter; or(4) that is loaded with passengers or cargo beyond the watercraft's safe carrying capacity or is equipped with a motor or other propulsion machinery beyond the watercraft's safe power capacity.$50 fine plus $85 in court cost for a violation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAMAN Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Thanks Kevin and MinDak, thats why I ask, is it legal to use a 60/40 on a boat only rated for a 40 since the motor isn't necessarily outputting 60 at the jet, its only 40. I'm guessing its all going to depend on the officer you ask, and its probably something that needs to be addressed in the way the law is written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoaru99 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I'm a guessin' they're going to judge by the HP on the engine shroud. If the shroud says 60HP, I reckon they're going to consider it a 60HP engine regardless if it's prop or jet drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atvlaska Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 all the hp u can buy!!! i have a monark 20'footer with a merc 175 pro about 135 at the jet and runs in <2.5"of water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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