Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      Members Only Fluid Forum View   08/08/2017

      Fluid forum view allows members only to get right to the meat of this community; the topics. You can toggle between your preferred forum view just below to the left on the main forum entrance. You will see three icons. Try them out and see what you prefer.   Fluid view allows you, if you are a signed up member, to see the newest topic posts in either all forums (select none or all) or in just your favorite forums (select the ones you want to see when you come to Fishing Minnesota). It keeps and in real time with respect to Topic posts and lets YOU SELECT YOUR FAVORITE FORUMS. It can make things fun and easy. This is especially true for less experienced visitors raised on social media. If you, as a members want more specific topics, you can even select a single forum to view. Let us take a look at fluid view in action. We will then break it down and explain how it works in more detail.   The video shows the topic list and the forum filter box. As you can see, it is easy to change the topic list by changing the selected forums. This view replaces the traditional list of categories and forums.   Of course, members only can change the view to better suit your way of browsing.   You will notice a “grid” option. We have moved the grid forum theme setting into the main forum settings. This makes it an option for members only to choose. This screenshot also shows the removal of the forum breadcrumb in fluid view mode. Fluid view remembers your last forum selection so you don’t lose your place when you go back to the listing. The benefit of this feature is easy to see. It removes a potential barrier of entry for members only. It puts the spotlight on topics themselves, and not the hierarchical forum structure. You as a member will enjoy viewing many forums at once and switching between them without leaving the page. We hope that fluid view, the new functionality is an asset that you enjoy .
Sign in to follow this  
lichen fox

New shining laws

Recommended Posts

I was glad to see the new shining laws that were passed in the game & fish bill...It basicly denies ANY shining...(with or without guns-bows-etc)...from two hours after sunset until sunrise. So if anyone is going to shine they have just the two hours after sunset to do it...which really amounts to one and a half hours after legal shooting hours for big game.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's in HF1237 and was signed by the Gov on 5/22...if you want to read the whole thing go to the Mn Legislature HSOforum click on House and search for HF1237...go to sec 43 you will find the complete text there...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here's the wording as it passed.....So you can't shine "period" if you have something that could be used to "take" a wild animal....So you better leave your fishing nets at home too!!

Sec. 43. Minnesota Statutes 2008, section 97B.081, is amended to read:

97B.081 USING ARTIFICIAL LIGHTS TO LOCATE ANIMALS.

Subdivision 1. With implements to take wild animals. a person may not cast the rays of a spotlight, headlight, or other artificial light on a highway, or in a field, woodland, or forest, to spot, locate, or take a wild animal while

having in possession, either individually or as one of a group of persons, a firearm, bow, or other implement that could be used to take big game, small game or unprotected wild animals.

Subd. 2. Without implements to take wild animals. Except as provided in subdivision 3, from two hours after sunset until sunrise, a person may not cast the rays of a spotlight, headlight, or other artificial light on a highway, or in a field, woodland, or forest to spot, or locate a wild animal

Except as provided in subdivision 3, a person may not cast the rays of a spotlight, headlight, or other artificial light on fenced, agricultural land

© Except as provided in subdivision 3, a person may not cast an artificial light onto residential property or building sites from a motor vehicle

(d) Except as provided in subdivision 3, a person may not at any time cast the rays of a spotlight, headlight, or other artificial light onto property posted with signs prohibiting the shining of lights onto the property. When signs are posted, the signs shall display letters that are at least two inches in height and state "no shining" or similar terms and shall be placed at intervals of 500 feet or less along the boundary of the property.

Subd. 3. Exceptions. (a) It is not a violation of this section for a person to:

(1) cast the rays of a spotlight, headlight, or other artificial light to take raccoons according to section 97B.621, subdivision 3, or tend traps according to section 97B.931;

(2) hunt fox or coyote from January 1 to March 15 while using a handheld artificial ight, provided that the person is:

(i) on foot;

(ii) using a shotgun;

(iii) not within a public road right-of-way;

(iv) using a handheld or electronic calling device; and

(v) not within 200 feet of a motor vehicle; or

(3) cast the rays of a handheld artificial light to retrieve wounded or dead big game

animals, provided that the person is:

(a) on foot; and not in possession of a firearm or bow.

(B) It is not a violation of subdivision 2 for a person to cast the rays of a spotlight,

headlight, or other artificial light to:

(1) carry out any agricultural, safety, emergency response, normal vehicle operation,

or occupational-related activities that do not involve taking wild animals; or

(2) carry out outdoor recreation as defined in section 97B.001 that is not related to

spotting, locating, or taking a wild animal.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

now that trail cameras are around, is there any need to shine anymore?

Good point, I didn't even realize it but I stopped shining when I got trail cams. This law makes sense I guess, not much reason to be out shining in the middle of the night unless of course you are a poacher.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Good luck enforcing it.

I am not a shiner, for the record, but there are laws that can be enforced, and those that can't. Put this in can't.

Hmmm, drinking and driving... Some guy with a flashling counting deer on property he has permision to hunt....

Who's the person the officer is going to spend his time looking for?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think this new shinning rule is another "shinning" example of a rule that limits an otherwise harmless activity for law abidding people and does little to stop the slobs who will continue to break rules.

I have enjoyed showing my kids moose, bears, and deer under the cover of darkness for years. I also enjoyed scanning fields on the way home from the 3-11pm shift, never to find a buck to hunt, but to just view an animal that is otherwise nocturnal.I was carefull never to shine into peoples homes and never carried a firearm while doing it. I have stopped the car to watch a wolf cross and turned the car to aim the lights to prolong a short glimpse. These harmless activities are now illegal.

A few have spoiled it for the many once again.I intend to follow the rule, but count me as a strong proponent who vows to fight against it.

I say let the people see the animals we share the world with and punish those who poach in such a way as they dare not break the rules.Hans

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Technically, at least during season I believe that was already illegal after the 3-11 shift, as you had to stop by 10pm. I agree that if you're not attempting to take game it is totally harmless & probably 99% of the people shining had no bad intent. Don't know this for a fact, but my guess is it's just a way to prosecute those who they know were intending to poach, that they didn't catch them shooting or with the weapon. I've certainly not known anyone or heard of anyone who ever got in trouble for just shining.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am personally disappointed. I really enjoy shining wildlife, and it's never with bad intent.

We've made it an annual tradition to go out and look at the deer the night before the opener, and again a night or two later. It definitely helps when you have a youngster who hasn't seen anything the last couple days, and he needs a little boost in his morale.

Last year I took my brother and his son hunting for the first time. It was neat to show them how a buck in the chase mode responds to a doe in heat. It also gave them a chance to determine in their mind, what would be a "shooter" and which ones to leave go.

I think it's exciting and harmless. Nevertheless, I can understand their motivation.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It didn't ban shining completely...without guns-bows or other implement that could be used to take game...you can still shine for two hours after "sunset"...if you like to shine before or during deer season it just limit's your time to 2 hours instead of about 5 hours as the old law used to be 10pm.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I will find it almost impossible to fight the urge to turn a light on a big buck, bear, moose, or bigfoot that crosses the road ahead of me -after legal shining hours. It is only natural to want to look. Passing a law that makes this illegal is akin to using a sledge hammer to push in a a tack.

I kow I am not alone in this and feel many will break the law in remote wilderness areas. I am in no way advocating this, but this rule needs some tweeking.

Anybody know if night vision scopes where considered in this bill. Is it the light bothering landownwers, or haressment of the wildlife the conscern? If it's the light night vision should be fine. How many deer are being poached at night? Is this a giant problem? If so why are we not convicting more of these hunters and taking their rights.

My fear is that a vocal group of landowners were trying to protect "their" prize trophys so the deer's patterns weren't changed before the season and the landowners had a chance to harvest them.

I often side with expanding opportunities for the general public in land disputes and see this as just another case of a limiting access to a public resourse. Hans

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here’s some more info that was in the bill…it appears as if “night vision equipment” is being treated the same as the “old shining law…you have to have the bows-guns cased, unloaded and in the trunk or rearmost part of the vehicle….

Sec. 17. Minnesota Statutes 2008, section 97A.331, subdivision 2, is amended to read:

Subd. 2. Shining. A person that violates section 97B.081, subdivision 1, relating to

the use of an artificial light to locate wild animals is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.

Sec. 44. Minnesota Statutes 2008, section 97B.086, is amended to read:

97B.086 POSSESSION OF NIGHT VISION EQUIPMENT.

(a) A person may not possess night vision equipment while taking wild

animals or while having in possession, either individually or as one of a group of persons,

a firearm, bow, or other implement that could be used to take wild animals.

(B) This section does not apply to a firearm that is:

(1) unloaded;

(2) in a gun case expressly made to contain a firearm that fully encloses the firearm

by being zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened without any portion of

the firearm exposed; and

(3) in the closed trunk of a motor vehicle.

© This section does not apply to a bow that is:

(1) completely encased or unstrung; and

(2) in the closed trunk of a motor vehicle.

(d) If the motor vehicle under paragraph (B) or © does not have a trunk, the firearm

or bow must be placed in the rearmost location of the vehicle.

(e) This section does not apply to night vision equipment possessed by peace

4officers or military personnel while exercising their duties.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  



  • Posts

    • The only thing to use them for, If I had one!  
    • Utube Randy Newberg spring bear hunts. He has a ton of DIY info on spring bear hunting
    • I've never used electric jacks, or hydro. I've heard they are pretty nice, and guys like them. It will be interesting to see how you feel about them after a season or two. I'd like to hear your input on them after you've used them awhile.
    • Yes, out of 100lb logs so they can't carry it away!
    • Really ufatz, that's how tomorrow  will affect fishing?? It all depends on what your fishing for. If I'm just off the flats chasing walleyes it would be interesting to see if they work there way up on top mid day. Probably not. To much of a short window.. 
    • Are fuses necessary on an on board charger?  Manual chargers do not have them,  is there a reason for them on the on board charges. I was given a system with a bank that may not have been working correctly, possibly blowing the fuse repeatedly.  My system would not be hooked up to an alternator on the engine so I'm wondering if it is fine to use the charging bank without the fuses.  The orange charging light comes on when I hook the wires directly up to a battery. I'm asking because I don't want to go through the bother of wiring this thing in my boat if I can't get it to work right. Also, I would technically only need 2 of the 3 banks to work, but I like the idea of repairing it to its potential.
    • My bait is getting hit but the bear does not like the large, cinnamon gum drops i added to the bait! He will drag them out and move on to other tasty treats. I do have red licorice to add next time.
    • Thanks...  Only truck in our neighborhood anyway....
    • Better than breaking your arse slipping on the ice.  
    • Yes!  There is no question the eclipse will affect fishing! The eclipse will draw peoples attention away from fishing and the casual angler will be all wound up about watching the event. They will not be paying attention to anything else and surely not to fishing. The result will be far fewer anglers on the stream and YOU will have more room to fish and less competition. THAT is how the eclipse will affect fishing.
  • Our Sponsors