klclapper Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Having a hard time finding the # 10's, 12's & 14's. Contacted Mustad and no response back. Anyone know where I can find these online or a dealer who sells these sizes? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Tks.Kelli Clapper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Z Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Kelli,As far as I can tell they only make it in 1,2,4,10 at least those were the only sizes on the Mustad page.------------------Tight Lines,JP Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottO Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Not trying to start a big argument, but why are you looking for them? The "swedish" style hooks are known killers and make it much more difficult to get a good release on pike. They frequently catch pike either in the gullet or tear out gill rakers.You are much better off with a quick-strike rig or even a single treble. When I fish dead bait I use a single large treble hooked right behind the smelts head. I have a much better hook up ratio, and the pike are nearly always hooked in the lip rather than the gullet. When you get a flag you set the hook immediately.ScottO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klclapper Posted December 30, 2003 Author Share Posted December 30, 2003 ScottO-I've used and my family has used these hooks for many, many years w/ either smelt or houlagans. FYI- I've released many northern after being caught w/ a swedish hook. The catch is knowing how and when to set the hook and how to properly remove the hooks. Last year I was able to release a nice 11lb & 13lb northern that I caught in the spring that were both caught on one of these #10 "killer" hooks with no problem. Both were hooked in their lip. I don't know that I agree w/ the whole pike killer theory but to each his own. We primarily use them when we tip-up fish in Michigan in certain lakes and also when we fish w/ dead bait up in northern MN each spring fishing on shore or off of docks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Mike Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Klclapper,Drop me a email, I can probably set you up with some.Mikemike @ minkota.com ------------------Frozen Bait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Horn Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 I used circle hooks and they worked great. Fish On Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 HiI was on hsolist and did a search on Mustad & Circle Hooks and found quite a few up for auction...not sure what price you were looking at though. I can't post links here either, can I? DOH!!FB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunker Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Scott, at the same time we must remember that a treble hook is illegal unless on a lure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottO Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 A treble is not illegal in WI (my home state) or in MI. My rigs would actually be legal in MN too, as they have a spinner blade on them.The WI DNR did a study in 1994 on swedish hooks and even proposed banning them. Unfortunately they did not. Here is the study abstract and author details, etc.Hooking Mortality of Northern Pike Angled through IceDuBois, R.B., Margenau, T.L., Stewart, R.S., Cunningham, P.K., andP.W. Pasmussen. 1994. Hooking mortality of northern pike angled through the ice. North American Journal of Fish Management 14:769-775.Abstract.—Short-term (48-h) hooking mortality was examined for 185 northern pike Esox lucius angled through ice on baited still lines from three Wisconsin lakes. Mortality from capture with size-4 treble hooks baited with live fish was negligible (< 1%); however, mortality associated with pike hooks (also known as Swedish hooks) baited with rainbow smelt Osmerus mordax was substantial (33%). Additionally, mortality was greater for deeply hooked fish, and for fish exposed to short handling times. Pike hooks were associated with a higher percentage of deeply hooked fish than were treble hooks, but hooking location alone did not fully explain the difference in mortality between hook types. Of fish that bled at capture, 84% survived. The length of time that northern pike were allowed to run with the bait plus the time associated with hooking and landing the fish was unrelated to either mortality or hooking location. The use of pike hooks may not be compatible with management of northern pike fisheries if minimum size limits or catch-and-release regulations are used to attain management objectives.ScottO[This message has been edited by ScottO (edited 12-30-2003).][This message has been edited by ScottO (edited 12-30-2003).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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