Coyotes in the area

[picksbigwagon]

I have been teaching for over 15 years BobT, I agree with your assessment 100%, The word NO needs to be learned and understood at a young age.

[Kyle]

[quote Unfortunately I believe the majority of the experts in the field don’t agree with you.

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BobT-

I think I understand the majority of what you are saying. I agree, but could you clarify this for me:

Do you mean "experts" as in the biologist, and "you" as in the hunter? Im not sure how you mean that.

My experience is that alot of hunters dont believe what the biologist say, and vice versa. Am I on the same page with you?

[CodyDawg]

BobT, I agree on the discipline angle.

I have a little different take on coyotes. There was a study that was presented at a state PF convention from the U of SD that showed that IMPORTING coyotes to areas with a known high concentration of fox increased the pheasant population. The reasoning was that the yotes drove out the fox. Fox have a smaller home range and target pheasants. Coyotes have a larger home range and target other species (wabbits and mice I think I remember) first. So from a purely pheasant angle, coyotes might not be that bad.

Also, you might want to start with Delta Waterfowl in terms of research, they are big proponents of predator suppression and have done many studies on them. Again, this will probably be on the bird angle, but it might provide some clues.

[BobT]

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My experience is that alot of hunters dont believe what the biologist say, and vice versa. Am I on the same page with you?

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I think we're probably on the same page. Note that I said the "I believe" the biologists disagree with your opinion but like you, it is my opinion and I don't have figures to back up that particular statement with fact. It's just what I believe to be true. In other words, I could be wrong.

Bob

[carpshooterdeluxe]

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BobT, I agree on the discipline angle.

I have a little different take on coyotes. There was a study that was presented at a state PF convention from the U of SD that showed that IMPORTING coyotes to areas with a known high concentration of fox increased the pheasant population. The reasoning was that the yotes drove out the fox. Fox have a smaller home range and target pheasants. Coyotes have a larger home range and target other species (wabbits and mice I think I remember) first. So from a purely pheasant angle, coyotes might not be that bad.

Also, you might want to start with Delta Waterfowl in terms of research, they are big proponents of predator suppression and have done many studies on them. Again, this will probably be on the bird angle, but it might provide some clues.

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i can agree with this 100% as i have read the reports from usd, as well as a report from sdsu's biology guys about nesting success in controlled conditions (high fence range, x amount of yotes vs x amount of fox vs x amount of coons, skunks etc.) the sdsu study stated that during duck and pheasants breeding seasons, coyotes, while not opposed to taking a free meal of hen mallard or pheasant, would consistantly spend more time mousing and preying on rabbits. trapping fox and skunks will get you way more birds on your land than shooting a coyote. but as far as deer go, i dont really have an idea one way or the other on the effects of coyotes. all i know is that my .22-250 and sks are equal oppertunity predator killers.