PETA and the Bugs and Bunny crowd

[Guest]

Here is my one and only experience with the PETA crowd. We had a late blizzard in the Rocky Mtns when I lived there. And as you hunters know, the elk and deer can go all winter on fat storage for the most part. What will cause mass starvation is a big spring blizzard. We tried to get recruits from PETA and other animal orgs. to donate time and money to help us feed the elk heard that was near us. Well, only us hunters, guides and local ranchers were willing. It was quite a site to see heards of elk (100-200) coming up to you like Betsy the cow. Any thoughts on PETA here?

[Johnny B]

PETA is the acronym for:
People Eating Tasty Animals!

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[jkrash]

Here's part of a email I recieved the other day, I think this is posted on the DNR site to.

Minnesota Department of Natural Resources
Parks and Recreation Division
500 Lafayette Road
St. Paul, MN 55155

On behalf of PETA's more than 750,000 members and supporters, as well as the fish, birds, and other animals that make Minnesota state parks their home, we
respectfully request that fishing be
banned in all Minnesota state parks. According to an article in U.S. News & World Report ("Parks in Peril," July 21, 1997), the park system is bending under the
pressure of encroachment,underfunding, overcrowding, and pollution. Eliminating
fishing and its harmful effects would take
some of this pressure off of the parks and their inhabitants.

The violent process of fishing and its consequences do not complement the peace and tranquility of a state park. As you know, fish have a neurochemical system like ours and thus the brain capacity to experience fear and pain. Fish who are torn from the water suffer from being impaled,
thrown, stepped on, or mutilated while alive. Many die slowly and painfully from suffocation.
Fishing has other victims, too: In one case among many, a young bald eagle was found by the National Park Service, near death because of injuries to his feet caused by fishing line that had cut through his flesh, resulting in a systemic infection and
intense suffering. He required intensive
daily care for three months before he was successfully released. Not all animals are as lucky. Millions of birds and other animals suffer, and many die,from injuries caused by discarded fishing hooks, monofilament line, lead weights, and floats. Animals who become entangled in fishing line are often trapped underwater and drown or, unable to feed,die slowly of starvation. In fact, many wildlife rehabilitators tell us that fishing litter is the single greatest cause of injuries to aquatic animals.
Minnesota state parks have traditionally made the compassionate choice to ban hunting, and we are asking you to take the next step. Fishing is just hunting in the water. The tide is turning on sportfishing with the widespread recognition of the sentience of fish and the desire to live a more compassionate, less harmful life. After reading the enclosed materials, we hope you will make the decision to ban fishing in Minnesota state parks and turn them into true havens for all Please contact me if you have any questions. I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely,

Dan Shannon
"Fishing Hurts" Campaign

[Slowfinger]

Here's an email I received. I can't confirm it though...

> If you are familiar with PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of
> Animals), then you are aware of the fact they will do almost anything to
> protect animals. This year's efforts to save Ohio's deer from the annual
> statewide gun season has backfired.
> For safety's sake, hunters in Ohio are required by law to display at least
> 400 square inches of hunter's blaze orange on their person when in the
> woods. Capitalizing on the fact that hunters do not usually shoot orange,
> PETA recently bulk purchased blaze orange vests and have been affixing
> them to live-trapped deer in Youngstown suburbs. According to PETA
> spokesperson Katie Reese, a total of 405 vests were successfully put into
> circulation prior to this week, with additional specimens still being
> caught and vested.
> Youngtown entrepreneur Guy Lockey, of Guy's Outdoors has spit in the face
> of PETA by offering rewards for the returned vests this week. Hunters who
> can successfully bag a vested deer can pay $5 for random and biggest
> animal awards. As of Tuesday, 308 of the vests had already been recorded
> as bagged with most of the hunters registering for Mr. Lockey's drawing.
> It's so easy, you can see them coming a mile away" said one first year
> hunter after checking in his first spike buck.
> ODNR officials are worried that the poorly thought out plan by PETA might
> get somebody shot instead of saving the deer. "Hunters have turned their
> plan upside down, we're just hoping that nobody gets hurt and are hoping
> that none of the vested animals get tangled in brush" said an unnamed ODNR
> official. "PETA has really outdone itself this time."

[LaVoi]

Yep that sounds like something that PETA would do. I tell you they are so stupid they never think anything through before they do it. Vesting those deer could have been very dangerous, possibly killing someone.

[Guest]

Is it ethical treatment to play dress up with a deer/wild animal? I remember my little sister dressing up our family dog to have a play friend (poor old boy, never quite looked happy in that dress) but at least he had the outfit taken off after several hours.

[Guest]

The funny thing is that those peta people hold a single animal life above that of their fellow humans... If a hunter had shot another hunter due to peta's ineptitude, peta memebers would have been out in the streets having a party over it!

[rap]

i remember peta or greenpeace had another backfire a couple years ago. they wanted to stop the hunting of seals for their coats, so they went up and sprayed them all with paint to destroy the value of their coats, they ended up killing a bunch of them by poisoning them with the paint....

[Cyberfish]

On behalf of PETAs more than 750,000 members and supporters, as well as the fish, birds, and other animals that make MN state parks there home,we respectfully request that people be banned in all MN state parks.
Eliminating people and there harmful effects takes some of the pressure off the parks and their inhabitants. The violent process of our existence does not complement the peace and tranquility of a state park. Just think of all the ants that needlessly suffer and are slaughtered by our footsteps.
If we are out at night we might even accidently step on a earth worm, and it is proven that they are sentient and experience agony and suffering when we do so. And what of the poor mosqitoes that happen to get suashed by a vicious slap while haveing their supper!

Oh the dread!

[Guest]

Yup, those 'peta' people sure are some smart ones! About 4-5 yrs. ago a bunch of them helped me out with a deer drive! I was going to push through a wooded area when about ten of 'em came tearing down the road, jumped out of their vehicles and started yelling & hollering 'save the deer', etc. Well, they walked right into the woods with me and made so much racket, they chased all the deer out. Little did they know that the rest of my hunting party was posted on the other side! Well, we filled our tags and even had a C.O. show up to give 'em all tickets for hunter harassment & trespassing. We still laugh about it to this day!!!
So...to all the "peta" people out there---"Here's your sign--[i'M STUPID]"

[This message has been edited by HtchEyeCatcher (edited 01-18-2002).]

[fiskyknut]

HtchEyeCatcher

ROTFLMAO - Now that's a good story!

Fisky

[SpikeRoberts]

As many of you have pointed out, the activites of PETA are rarely effective in meeting any particular short-term goals, but that doesn't really matter to them. When they undertake activities like putting vests on deer its more of a publicity stunt than a measure to protect the deer. From that perspective they are extremely effective -- as an old advertising proverb goes, "there is no such thing as publicity." Over time, the spectacle of such activities continues to get coverage and slowly the animal rights activists work their way into every public discussion involving agriculture, hunting, and fishing. From this perpspective, (unfortunatley) we outdoors people need to take them much more seriously than they deserve credit for -- we need to be very conscious of own percpetion in the public eye and do our best to maintain a positive image. For instance, we all do some really important work when it comes to funding and working towards a variety of conservation projects and we need to do a better job of conveying that message to the public at large so the PETA folks aren't able to dominate public discussion.

[Guest]

Last summer at the Nat'l Trappers Conv. in Mason city, IA, they were handing out free cards to give to tree huggers. the front of the card says:
ANIMAL RIGHTS IDENTIFICATION CARD
I,__________, hereby identify myself as a supporter of Animal Rights and agree to live my life in accordance with all animal rights principles.
(back)
So as not to violate my animal rights principles, I hereby request that in the event of accident or illness, all medical treatments developed or tested on animals be withheld, including, but not limited to: blood transfusions, anesthesia, painkillers, anitbiotics, insulin, vaccines, chemotheropy, CPR, coronary bypass surgery, re-constructive surgery, orthorpedic surgery and etc.
courtesy natitional Trappers Association

I give them to the rights groups members that I see.