bassNspear Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 Its all going to depend on where your cutting that whole and placing your house. I placed my house one time on a rock that was three times the size of my house. Fixed that by getting a camera to place the house in the right place so i dont spend the time on cutting a whole and then having to do it all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RK Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Hiya - If there's enough light penetration (clear ice and not much snow cover) and late summer/fall conditions are ideal, cabbage and other aquatic plants will grow year-round. When you're on the lake in the spring and see tall green cabbage early, it's likely weeds that have overwintered. As long as they can get adequate light they grow all year. Lots of cabbage got sunburned htis year (high heat meant not as much bloom so light was intense) and reall died back this fall, so green weeds might be a little more of a commodity this winter. I know I GPSd some green weedbeds so I can go find them this winter Cheers, Rob Kimm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 So do you think that most lakes this winter will not be carring alot of cabbage and weeds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 Did anyone read the artical last year off the DNR HSOforum about the guys that were up north that were cuaght with WAY to many fish over there limit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RK Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Hiya - Don't know if I can say *most* but a lot of the lakes I'm on did have a very pronounced cabbage die-off this fall. Some clumps here and there but far less than a typical year I think. I think the stuff just got sunburned. Water got too hot for an algae bloom (hot water kills algae) so it got that intese July and August heat and light. The flip side of that is, when the water stayed clear and algae-free for the most part, the coontail went bonkers. On the lake my cabin's on I found coontail in 21' of water in places. 17's not unusual on that lake by August, but anything over 20 is pretty deep for coon. Made for a great fall weed walleye bite, and the bass loved it too. the DT-16s got a workout in September and early October.Cheers,Rob KimmCheers,Rob Kimm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 I hear ya man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 There is nothing better then seeing that big hog coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 Are alot of people using live bait with fake or just fake or what? Im curious to see what people are using. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishin magician Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 If you take a good look to the left of the live decoy you will see a small northern staring it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 I know, that was the first thing that i was looking at when you posted that pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10,000 Casts Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 One of the lakes that we have a cabin has somewhere around 20 ft secchi disk rating and it is unbelievable to spear on. However back in the 80's or 90's the spearing did take its toll on the fish population. Now there are only "snakes" and there is alot of them. It is to a point where I don't even fish it even though we have a boat on the lift there. But I beleive that we can't blame the spear. Its up the the person that is throwing it if they want to be a conservasionist or not. And if there is someone that has never been.... it is something that you have to try. What Bass N Spear is saying is correct in that its not the kill but watching that big Jack come in that is priceless. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 Casts, Its the time where ur out there looking at that hog. Maybe there is a time that people need to go out to ur lake that your talking about and help the population but taking a few of the smaller fish out of the lake. Maybe im wrong, but if it get over populated, it might get out of hand. Dont you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mplspug Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Yeah, you have a lake with a bunch of snakes then they need to be thinned out. Nothing wrong with pickled northern! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 You got that right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 Does anyone know where a guy can pick up a spear for a good price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyjor Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I would go to your local High School and have someone taking a metal shop course make one for you. Throw them $5 over what the metal costs and they'll get a little something along with a good grade. Plus they'll know they did quality work if you get back to them with a success story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 I will have to take that into consideration. I never thought about that. I was just thinking of a place that sells tons of them where they have alot of them on hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Bassman Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Spearing rocks!!!! If people are goin to cry about ppl spearing they might a well start crying about all the big bucks that get shot to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 Ya know you have a point there Bassman, People are out there shooting bucks that are monster racks, kinda goes hand in hand on spearing as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskylover9 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 That is completely different. How can you even begin to compare the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 What do you mean. Explain please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskylover9 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Big pike are the dominate predators of a lake. Other than removing them from the gene pool, how can killing deer with large racks have the same effect as removing big pike from a lake? Do the deer in your area keep the squirrel population under control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 Its the same way as taking big pike out of the lake. If your having guys/gals taking all the huge deer around a area, that area is not going ot be holding other deer. Its the same thing as big pike, you take them out of a lake, that lake will die out. Everyone has been saying that, so how can you not say that for taking the monster bucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskylover9 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 When it comes to killing a deer, the size of their rack does not determine the effect that killing it will have on the area. You could shoot a small buck or a big buck, they both eat about as much and breed about as much. Killing a deer for whats on its head really only means that there will be one less deer with good genes in the woods.When you kill big pike you affect the whole lake. The pike keep the lake healthy by keeping other fish populations in check. Without the big pike as predators, fish like sunfish, bass and northern pike get over populated and their growth becomes stunted. Pike also help keep rough fish from taking over a lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 You might have a point in a few areas, but i feel that the bigger pike that are in the lake kill the population of smaller fish as in sunfish and smaller fish. Yes they keep others in check, but its not going to beat up on the lake with a few of the monsters in the lake. I have been spearing all my life. And for myself always going to the same two lakes, the pike population has never went down. Other fish in the lake are killing off becuase the population of the pike has became to a point where there running the lake. There is a place where u can say the pike are keeping the lake in check, and there is a place where you can say that there over populating the lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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