Pilot question

[MedicDan]

If anyone is a pilot, I am one, but if there is someone else on here, who is I have a question, but I will post it only if I know there is someone on here. I am looking for someone who has flown either a piper cherokee, a piper arrow, a cessna 150/152/172/182, so if you have, please let me know.

[Giant_Jackpot]

I have flown a 152 and 172. Been a few years though....

[MedicDan]

A few years is fine....I have began my instructing career and want to know if there is any way to explain stalls, spins, and shortfield take offs to someone. Maybe a way you learned or something would be nice.

[delmuts]

to me the easier way was to have a model air plane so you could show what the plane does in each of these moves. the stall is the pt. where the plane just stops flying in the air.a spin, would be hard to describe,but with a model you could show them what happens.my $.02 del

[MedicDan]

I forgot to post why I am asking mainly- see alot of people that don't go to college for aviation just take lessons on and off, but since I am getting my degree at a college, I got 300 hours in 2.5 months, where some people would only get that in a year, so I have a hard time moving so fast on it. Now the college had to options, either leave the school and pay for flight hours, or work for them as an instructor, getting paid. That whole transition was really odd, because I went from last week graduationg to this week instructing, and I've never instructed.

[Giant_Jackpot]

I really don’t think I am going to be a lot of help to you since it has been 16 years since I got the license and had formal instruction. In my opinion, your school should be giving you an entire course on how to give instruction. From the way you describe it, you are being asked to go out and figure it out for yourself. That’s not good for you or your students. I still read “Flying” magazine and they talk about this very subject (instructors not being taught how to instruct) all the time and how it is one of the weaknesses in the system. If I were you I would search out someone who instructs for a living (not an instructor just trying to move his way into the major airlines) and get advice from them.

I am jealous of your quick accumulation of hours though. I would love to get back into flying some day. Maybe you can take me for a ride when the muskies aren’t biting?

[MedicDan]

I would take someone for a ride....once I get out of school, right now after I am finishing college getting my masters in science majoring in professional flight, and minoring in psycology. I was also excepted into william mitchell law school, so I am going there to get my law degree in criminal and aviation law, so I still have about 4 years of schooling left, I am already on my 5th. When that time comes, if your still a member on here, I'll save this post and come back to it.

[Ihateriversnags]

Hey crasher,

Make sure if you are instructing in both aircraft (piper and cessna) that you explain the drastically huge difference in the stall characteristics between the two. As someone who did ALL my training in piper products, once I got into a high wing cessna and felt the stall and then had that wing dip made me think we were gonna spin! Not that it was a big deal but it sure is something to keep in mind when transitioning into another type of aircraft. Also the importance of control manipulation while on the ground and taxiing. Important for all but more important in a cessna.

Jason

[skyking]

I think I still have a lot of my CFI notes that I don't need anymore, maybe you'd want them..?????

[MedicDan]

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I think I still have a lot of my CFI notes that I don't need anymore, maybe you'd want them..?????

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I might have to do that. I'll give it a thought, I just got back from vacation. If you want to tell give your email, I'll let you know what I decide.> [email protected] < I do also instruct, besides those planes, the Cherokee 140, C150, 152, 172, and 182, as above, but also the diamond DA20, DA40 and Piper Seminole. I might not take the notes, because I think I should try to learn it on my own, but I'll give it a thought...

[Ufatz]

From what I am reading you sound like a very creative guy so I'm sure you'll come up with some inovative instruction techniques. Jamming 300 flight hours into that period of time should certainly give a guy the confidence. And with your apparent abilities it would seem easy for you to quickly acquire knowledge of the characteristics of all the various aircraft you will be dealing with.

I wish you the best of luck.

[MedicDan]

I did a complete count from both of my log books, PIC 328.4 hours, and alot of dual. Now I have 7 hours of instruction given, also PIC. Luckily, I haven't gotten to the spin part, I am on take-offs and landings, which I am allowing students to basically make on their own, which are usually a little bumpy.

[MedicDan]

I also forgot to add, I have been teaching one student, who I believe has the skill to, but it is very hard to explain, is I originally started learning on a grass strip about 1200 feet long with a cessna 172 RG. So I have been using a cessna 172 R to show him, because he has a field like that, but the hardest thing is that the older ones seemed to be able to do it alot better in a shorter distance. With the new ones, I am afraid to hit the power lines at the end of his 1400 ft strip.