Night vision scopes

[harvey lee]

I have a friend that wants to put a night vision scope on his 22-250 for coyote hunting.I'm wondering what would be a good scope to buy and will they range out to 150+ yards?

Is the Generation 3 good enough or does he need a better one?Any info on these would be great.

[roosterslayer]

be careful if your friend mounts that nught vision scope to hunt yoyes in MN, i believe in the regs it is illegal to use for hunting. just thought i would warn you.

[harvey lee]

Night vision scopes are legal for coyoyes in Mn.You cant use a device that cast a beam of light(flashlight).Thats accoriding to the DNR.

[carpshooterdeluxe]

wouldnt a night vision scope with an infrared illuminator be considered to cast a beam of light? its not light in the visible spectrum but light none the less. wow i remember something from physics???? i wish i had an dpms panther with a 4 power night vision scope though...that would be one wicked setup!

[harvey lee]

According to the gentleman at the Mn. DNR that I spoke with he stated that they are legal for varmits.It does not cast a ray of light per say.Yes,it does have a light intensifer tube.

[Valv]

Not all of them have IR lights, some gen 1 use just light amplification, they pickup and amplify lights from stars, moon, etc. Depending on model they are good to 100/150 meters (100/150 yards) seom even more. Gen 3 will be very expensive though, you are talking $ 1500 and up. Gen 1 are the cheapest, I am browsing a site with Russian products and might get into one of them too soon, but I have to get my AR first.....

[jlm]

I would not waste your time or money with generation 1 scopes, in my opinion they are terrible. You will only get frustrated. If you really want to make it right, go with something a little better. I am not clear if generation 3 scopes are legal for yotes? Anyone else have thoughts?

[Valv]

I believe gen 3 are gen 1 and 2 with an IR light to achieve good results.

If DNR said ok to light for varmint it should be fine.

[harvey lee]

jlm

Whwn I asked the Mn. Dnr if night vision scopes were legal,they said yes and didnt state there was a preference for the Gen1-2-3.

Valv

You are correct.The better the scope the farther you see.Range will also depend on sky conditions,clear-cloudy or full moon.

From what I understand,if you leave the light off and only use the amp tube you are fine.This is from the DNR per todays conversation.No transmitted lights.

[firemedic5586]

As of the 05 regs, you could shoot yotes around the clock. You couldn't use artificial light to take them though. With that being said, IR is good to go. Now,some IR sights do have IR lights attached to them so if you use these lights while hunting you would be breaking the law. As for going with Gen I, for the ranges your talking I would say no.

Here are a few links for you.

http://www.opticsplus.net/FAQ

When I win the lotery I'll have this one mounted on my latest toy.

http://www.opticsplus.net/ThermalNightVision/ThermalWeaponSights/ELCANSpecterIRThermalRifleScope

[Valv]

So, what did we find out about night vision scopes ? They are expensive I know.....

Do you think as IR flashlight beam can be seen with a standard scope ?

[harvey lee]

Spendy,but sweet.I would think it would work Val if you have a better scope.Only one way to find out.

[Valv]

I will get one, they are not very expensive on hsolist and will try.....

[Valv]

Tom,

what did your friend buy for nightvision. I started with a gen 1 monocular and I am not that unhappy, you can see a long way.

I found out you can mount a red dot or holo sigh in front of night vision scope to help aiming, it's a pretty slick setup, but of course depends on your gun, I have an AR-15 and my mounting rail is pretty long, you can get a removable setup, switching night/day scopes will be very easy.

Gen 1 will be good to 100yds with no IR, then gen2 will go up to 250, gen3 over etc.

The view with a 1 is good, I was impressed, and since you cannot use the IR anything over 100yds is practically useless.

I have a gen 1 monocular here, I've been playing with it for a while and it's amazing what you can see even in complete dark.

[harvey lee]

He bought a gen.2 scope. I believe it was made by ATN and the cost was roughly 1600 clams. He does like it very much. I would have to call Optics 4 Hunting to get the model as I do not remember which exact one.

[Whoaru99]

Gen 3 are really expensive, but really good. VERY clear image...

There is Gen 4 now, and then there is thermal imaging, which might be best of all, IMO, if you got about $10k...