Jon P. - your leaders

[Cooter]

Jon, correct me if wrong, but for open water musky you use solid rings on the main line connection, flourocarbon leader, and then, what, a snap on the lure end? Danke.

[Random guy]

One end has a swivel with solid rings and the other has a solid ring then a split ring that I use instead of a snap.

[cjac]

I'd bet a guy could make some nice side money by making a few extra of these and selling them.......hint hint hint!

[mtreno]

Jon - why did you go with a split ring insted of the snap? thinking of playing with this stuff next season (been a steel guy forever).

[Random guy]

I'll hook ya up cjac.

[Random guy]

mtreno, I was fishing Vermillion and had a camera man in the boat with me when big mamma muskie smashed a bucktail at boat side. After a few rolls and a good head shake I was left with half of a snap. Later that night I was watching the tape in slow-mo and relized the leader got around the snap and unhooked it. That was enough for me. "Learn from your mistakes". I don't care how smart fish may become, they are not going to get that split ring apart.

[kjgmh]

Jon were do you get your solid rings? I tried to find some this summer and could not find any. Ended up getting leaders made with ball bearing swivels on both ends and attaching my split rings to lure side ball bearing.

[mtreno]

interesting - i broke a snap on frech with the biggest fish i have ever seen out there a few years back. thus my question - and got a very good repy... thanks

now go write some mortgages!!!!!

[Random guy]

Thorne Bros in Fridley have the solid rings over on the lure making wall in the fly fishing side of the shop.

Is it bad that I know where the products are located at musky shop?

[Random guy]

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now go right some mortgages!!!!!

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And what are you doing?

[cjac]

I suspect that you walking into Thorne Brros gets the same reaction as when Norm would walk into Cheers!

[mtreno]

oh um.... i was gonna.... oh umm.... i mean ahhhh.... shoot - busted - guess better head back up to mille lacs.....

bis is a bit slow, but even the best of us can use a breather every now and then. took last week off to fish -

[Cooter]

OK, a few more questions. How big of a split ring do you use and how many lure changes do you get out of one before its junk? Also, is it a royal pain in the arse changing lures or do you get pretty good with the split ring pliers? By the way, I saw some split rings made by Worth at Gander the other night that were RED...I kid you not.

[Random guy]

Cooter, You will get real good with the split ring pliers, I can change a bait faster on a split then a snap now. The secret was the Rapala split ring pliers. The have the "splitter" out on the end with small grips that you can run with one hand.

I use the Bucher split rings. They seem to hold up pretty good to the constant changing. As far as size I cannot recall the size but I match the solids with that of the ones on a 80lb swivel. For the split rings different rods have differant sizes. For my jigging rod I use a small split to fit the jig and the jerkbait rod has a bigger ring to allow movement and strength.

RED RINGS! I need those.