Pick one

[Guest]

Here's a little excersise-

Below are the stats of 2 QB's.

______Atts ... Comp ... TD ... Yds ... Comp % ... INT ... Rat

QB #1) 540 ... 346 ..... 30 ... 4088 ... 64.1 ........ 17 .... 92.4

QB #2) 548 ... 379 ..... 39 ... 4717 ... 69.2 ........ 11.... 110.9

Who would you rather have going on stats alone and not taking into account wins or losses?

[MedicineMan]

LOL! Here we go again!

[MJR]

I'd pick qb#2

I think QB #1 is good enough to probably get you to the playoffs but he would probably throw 4 picks in the first game.

[Guest]

[barebackjack]

Not enough info, could you tell me does either one of these quarterbacks wear a superbowl ring????? sorry couldnt help myself

[otto_man]

here's a little excersise

below are 2 QB's

one has 3 MVP's and a superbowl ring!

one has a $100,000 necklase and shady friends!

who would you rather have on your team?

[buzzsaw]

Gee Tom, I'd have to go with the guy with the far better numbers... only a cheese..... I mean only a knob would argue otherwise right? Also, those four interceptions should have been five!! The date is March 3rd packer faithful... you will know if yours and John Maddens hero is coming back to GB for another year of dissapointment. I still can't believe he will be retiring, how could such a warrior go out in such a dissapointing way in losing to his arch rival in the playoffs! I mean if he's such a stud he's got to avenge that a$$ whoopin' the purple put on him right Otto?

[otto_man]

buzzsaw, where ya been? you've missed an exciting day!!

i wish favre would hang them up, we have a Nall in the wings..

[Down to Earth]

That is a very sneaky question, only to set up the hard core Packer fans and allow them to play the Super Bowl trump card again. Plus you are comparing apples to oranges. One QB is in the prime of his career and another is near the end of his career. Obviously if you ask me who I'd rather have now it would be Culpepper. Who wouldn't(well except maybe musky buck and ottoman) If you go back and compare the sixth year of each QB they are pretty even on all stats you post with the exception of yards, % and rating. But you know what in Favre's sixth year in the NFL he was leading his team to a Super Bowl victory. Also, why do you not take into account wins and losses as that is what matters in the NFL? Here's another comparison for you, of these 2 QB's who would you rather have?

______Atts ... Comp ... TD ... Yds ... Comp % ... INT ... Rat

QB #1) 540 ... 346 ..... 30 ... 4088 ... 64.1 ........ 17 .... 92.4

QB #2) 474 ... 288 ..... 28 ... 3692 ... 60.8 ........14 .... 92.6

Andy

[barebackjack]

I dont know, which one has the better weed???

[otto_man]

down to earth

favre and brady? and that's without looking...

that's the rage coming out in me...

[fishyguy]

Who is the better QB? Farve or Brady?

[otto_man]

i would take brady today. favre back when he was 27

[Down to Earth]

Sorry messed up. I wanted to cut in Culpeppers stats in there instead of Favre's. Here's what I wanted to compare:

QB #2) 548 ... 379 ..... 39 ... 4717 ... 69.2 ........ 11.... 110.9

QB #1) 474 ... 288 ..... 28 ... 3692 ... 60.8 ........14 .... 92.6

Your right the new QB's stats injected in are Brady's. I have another comparison as well. Just heading out the door and will post it later.

Andy

[fishyguy]

Hasn't Brady won more Super Bowls by the same age? Doesn't that make him better regardless of age or stage of career? That of course is using the old "How many Super Bowls" trump card.

[Down to Earth]

fishyguy,

I think Brady is definately putting himself in the category of one of the best QB's of all time,in fact, I think he's already there. He puts up pretty solid #'s in the passing categories, but nothing spectacular in the form of C-Pep, Manning, Favre, McNabb, etc.... What sets him apart from all in this group is how he just plain wins games. In 4 years as a starting QB he is 48-14 during the regular season; add his undefeated record in post season and if he continues his yearly passing #'s for another 10 seasons he will be in the top 10 of many career numbers for QB's. Will be interesting to see how the rest of his career plays out.

If I could take either Favre or Brady both at 6 years into their careers it would be a hard choice. The Packer fan in me says I still would take Favre, but looking at it as an outsider of both teams I'd would have to go with Brady.

[Down to Earth]

Here's another little exercise similar to Tom's. I'm going to keep Culpepper's stats from this year.

______Atts ... Comp ... TD ... Yds ... Comp % ... INT ... Rating

C-Pep) 548 ... 379 ..... 39 ... 4717 ... 69.2 ........ 11.... 110.9

Who would take Culpepper over these three QB's

QB#1 ) 548 ... 319 ..... 16 ... 3780 ...58.2 ........11.... 80.7

QB#2 ) 520 ... 321 ..... 26 ... 3944 ...61.7 ........16.... 89.0

QB#3 ) 502 ... 280 ..... 27 ... 3635 ... 55.8 .......11.... 87.5

Remember we are taking into account stats alone and not wins and losses. If your using the same reasoning in your Favre example you might be a little surprised who you would be passing on with these 3.

[buzzsaw]

You can tell it's the offseason, were all breaking down stats.

Otto, I've been in the metro fishing section lately... I spend more time there when there is no football to banter about. Craig Nall is da man!!

[Down to Earth]

Offseason?? What do you mean we still have the Pro Bowl this weekend. Seriously, though, does anyone even care about the Pro Bowl? As far as I'm concerned the season ends with the Super Bowl. Unlike Baseball and Basketball, who can put their all star games mid season and really promote the heck out of the event, football can't. Instead its after everything has been decided, far away on some tropical island, and more or less seems to get treated as an afterthought instead of an all star game.

[fishyguy]

Down to Earth,

Your take on Brady is absolutely right on. That question was for the many of those here that use the Super Bowl trump card for every situation. I thought we would show that it does not always work in their favor. If winning the SB is the only thing that matters then Aikman, Elway, Bradshaw, Staubach, Brady, Starr, Griese, and Montana are better than Farve. Doug Williams, Trent Dilfer, Phil Simms, Kenny Stabler, Kurt Warner, Jim McMahon, Plunkett, Rypien, Hostetler, Earl Morrall, Unitas, Theismann, Len Dawson, Brad Johnson (I am sure I missed some) are his equals.

[MJR]

Being a Viking fan the season generally ends long before the superbowl for me.

I don't think the players care about the probowl other than getting selected.

[mnvikingsfreak]

who's playoff stats are these?

20 games

34 td's

26 int's

passer rating 86.1

hint..he is the spokesman for vicodin

[Down to Earth]

Good job you got Brett Favre's career playoffs stats. Is there a point to that? By the way his TD total is #2 all time.

[buzzsaw]

If I can speak for the man I would have to read between the lines and say that his point is that if Mr. Favres TD to Interception ratio was better he probably would have been to and won many more super bowls! Just maybe he wasn't the factor in his ONE SB victory... heck a return man by the name of Desmond Howard (mighty tiny guy) won the MVP! NOT Favre. He just gets way too much credit thats all. Don't forget about Reggie Whites impact either...

[Down to Earth]

Buzzsaw,

I can give you that, but really couldn't you pretty much say that about any QB? Also, one could also spin it the other way. If Green Bay hadn't had Favre playing for them the past 14 years they may not have played in 20 playoffs games. I think QB's in general in the NFL get too much credit. It's been proven you don't need the top stat QB to win a Super Bowl, but when they win the QB gets hailed and when they lose the QB gets thrown to the wolves.

I also agree with you on the White impact. Personally I think he had more to do with the GB return to "glory" than Favre. Favre has just stayed around longer due to being at the beginning of his career and not the end.