line twist help I'm frustrated HELP!

[mrpike1973]

OK so i watched my lures today and they spin and spin and spin. I have pre stretched the line by hand to no avail. then i put new line on I'm using 2-4# trilene ice line. I have watched the video's how to spool up. watched a ice team presentation of what to do. I have also used a barrel swivel which didn't help either. I just bought some 3# fireline ice. and flourocarbon 3# I'm gonna try. can i tie these direct or do I need to use a swivel If I do I dont see myself changing jigs much. If you use a mono leader don't you loose the benifit if feel? I've busted several eyelets reeling in to far. I'm at wits end I had fish on the camera my buddy had. he caught fish after fish mine just sat and spun like a top I do believe I found why I dont catch much please help

[shamus]

If your buddy was catching all the fish I guess I would have been copying what he was doing. Seriously though how was his setup different than yours? I started using a spro swivel last year and while it didn't eliminate spin it did slow it down.

[Northlander]

Try a fly reel for your ice fishing it has helped me a lot when fishing with lighter lines. Otherwise tie a good/small crane swivel up your line a few feet.

[mrpike1973]

He had the same rod and reel as me and he said he had 4# mono on. Did you find with the swivel you got more fish.

[mrpike1973]

those fly reels I had one but it took for ever to get down 15 feet or so stripping line down is that how you do it by hand their is no free spool persay is there?

[shamus]

Honestly I really don't think it made a difference. I wasn't having problems catching panfish prior to that but noticed a lot of spin one day at the top of the hole and went to the swivel. I think some days if they're in a real negative mood it might help. Probably just gives me a little more confidence and that's about it.

[hunter76]

Tie a ball bearing swivel on then from there tie about 8 inches or so of line from that, then your lure.

[th64]

because a jig creates a right angle with your line when you send your jig down it twists your line not sure how a fly reel or some of the other 'solutions' would change that and I have not found a swivel that can keep up with the twist. When you use a spoon the lure is more in line with the line and you have less of a problem. If you constantly jiggle the jig the spin stops. Some people sit over one hole all night and they also do not have a problem, the lure is sent down it spins for a while and then it stops spinning.

Good Luck

[McJubjub]

What's helped me more than anything is switching to the the Frabill 261 straight line reel. Watching on the camera easily showed the difference between the straight line and spinning reels. I use them on 2 of my walleye poles and two of my crappie poles. The lack of line twist on the 261 is fantastic compared to what I've seen my whole life on spinning reels.

The walleye rigs are both 28" Fenwick Elite Techs (ML and MH) as I definitely prefer a reel seat to taping the reel to the handle for the 261's. They've got 8lb Fireline Crystal Ice line down to a ball bearing chain swivel, and then to a 4lb Trilene Fouro Ice leader. Make sure to load your bail nice and tight.

It's the only way I've ever been able to visibly reduce line twist.