tacklejunkie Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Will they still drum if the cold continues? Or is it the longer days that affect there drumming regardless of the weather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tybo Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Most birds drive to reproduce is driven by the photoperiod (the number of hours of daylight)so they should br drumming even with the snow. I don't know if they'll be breeding and nesting but the snow should not delay drumming. That photoperiod is also why the WC are here. They didn't know snow was here when they left the South but the photoperiod told them it was time to leave and come North. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANOPY SAM Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Not exactly the same thread, but I'm a little worried about our Northern MN ruffy population in regard to the huge owl migration that came down from Canada.Evidently the snow depth was too much in Canada for the Great Horned Owls to find food, so about a month or so ago there was a huge movement of Owls into northern MN. I witnessed this up by LOTW about 4 weeks ago. I counted something like 17 Great Horned owls over no more than a 10-12 mile drive, and that was just along the black top!Those darn things are really tough on grouse. They're the most stealthy hunters in the air, and with our grouse numbers already on the low end, I'm really concerned the owls are gonna really take a bite out of the population we have left on the low end of the cycle. Not that we can do much about it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottW Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Not sure about the counts and drumming overall but I've already heard grouse drumming while out collecting maple sap. On a side not, I'm sure a lot of woodcock nests have been compromised by the recent weather and snow. Last week after round two I saw two different woodcock out on the plowed road where dirt was showing likely hoping to find some nutrition as all the woods had a hefty foot of snow. 3-7" more tonight and I wouldn't be surprised if some adult woodcock started to kick the bucket, but maybe they're more industrious than I know, I'm not a woodcock expert! I don't miss the deerticks in March/April, but the negative effects on the bird populations are the only thing I don't like about this wonderful extended winter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sota2Florida Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Heard a few drumming up here today. I presume this week will pick up with warmer weather coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacklejunkie Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 I hear drumming around my neighborhood but it's down from previous years and about comparable to last spring. We will see what the counts are later this summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surewood Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I live in grouse country and the drumming seems to be down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott M Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Grouse counts decline, later spring nesting may help hatchMN DNR NewsJuly 15, 2013Ruffed grouse drumming counts were down across most of the bird’s range, according to the annual survey conducted by the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (DNR).“This decrease was not unexpected because the ruffed grouse population is still in the declining phase of its 10-year cycle,” said Charlotte Roy, DNR grouse biologist. “Drum counts peaked most recently in 2009.”Drumming counts dropped from 1.1 to 0.9 per stop in the northeast, which is the forest bird’s core range in Minnesota. Counts in the northwest declined from 0.9 in 2012 to 0.7 drums per stop in 2013. Drumming counts did not change significantly in the central hardwoods or southeast, with an average of 0.9 and 0.4 drums per stop, respectively.Ruffed grouse populations, which tend to rise and fall on a 10-year cycle, are surveyed by counting the number of male ruffed grouse heard drumming on established routes throughout the state’s forested regions. Drumming counts are an indicator of the ruffed grouse breeding population.This year, observers recorded 0.9 drums per stop statewide. The averages during 2011 and 2012 were 1.7 and 1.0 drums per stop, respectively. Counts vary from about 0.8 drums per stop during years of low grouse abundance to about 1.9 during years of high abundance.The number of birds present during the fall hunting season also depends upon nesting success and chick survival during the spring and summer. Drumming did occur later this year because of the late spring, suggesting that nesting likely occurred later than normal.“Later nesting would have pushed the hatch out a bit, hopefully beyond the spring rains,” Roy said. “Time will tell if that occurred and the impact on production.”Minnesota frequently is the nation’s top ruffed grouse producer. On average, 115,000 hunters harvest 545,000 ruffed grouse in the state each year, making it the state’s most popular game bird. During the peak years of 1971 and 1989, hunters harvested more than 1 million ruffed grouse. Michigan and Wisconsin – which frequently field more hunters than Minnesota – round out the top three states in ruffed grouse harvest.One reason for the Minnesota’s status as a top grouse producer is an abundance of aspen and other ruffed grouse habitat, much of it located on county, state and national forests where public hunting is allowed. An estimated 11.5 million of the state’s 16.3 million acres of forest are grouse habitat.For the past 64 years, DNR biologists have monitored ruffed grouse populations. This year,DNR staff and cooperators from 14 organizations surveyed 117 routes across the state.Sharp-tailed grouse counts decrease slightlySharp-tailed grouse counts in the northwest, the bird’s primary range in Minnesota, were similar to 2012. Counts in the east-central region declined significantly.Observers look for male sharptails displaying on traditional mating areas, called leks or dancing grounds.Despite several years of declining numbers, this year’s statewide average of 9.2 grouse counted per dancing ground was similar to the long-term average since 1980. The 2009 average of 13.6 was as high as during any year since 1980. During the last 25 years, the sharp-tailed grouse index has been as low as seven birds counted per dancing ground.Overall, sharptail populations appear to have declined over the long term as a result of habitat deterioration. In recent years, the DNR has increased prescribed burning and shearing that keep trees from overtaking the open brush lands that sharp-tailed grouse need to thrive.The DNR’s 2013 grouse survey report, which contains information on ruffed grouse and sharp-tailed grouse, is available online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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