archerystud Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Hard to rebuild quickly in the NHL when you are drafting kids that are 18 and under. It takes most of them a couple years to make it up to the big leagues.In 2 years I will bet they are a top 10 scoring team. It looks like the current regime is making pretty good decisions (except on the Leddy/Barker trade). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear55 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 ]The wild were getting very lucky in the begining of the year. We had a decent team with everyone healthy. Now with our core players hurt we are terrible. We have no depth to allow for injuries. I'm guessing the coaching staff and cf are not surprised how bad we are. I think you nailed, we were pulling wins out of thin air at the beginning of the year. Not to mention Backs and Harding were playing out of their minds. It was fun but not something you can do consistantly. We had all kinds of ???'s coming into the year. We just aren't good enough yet and any hope we had was squashed by massive injuries. It's been a tough year but dispite the results I feel we are heading in the right directions, it might not look like it now but I like our future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10,000 Casts Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 This article gets me excited for the next couple years. Grandlund, Brodin, Zucker, Hackett the other guys and hopefully a good pick after this year, $20 in cap space for 2013 and 2014, sign a big name on offense and a big name on defense and we'll have a good mix of quality rookies, solid middle of the road players and 2-3 all stars and the best enforcer in the NHL, we are so close!Quote:Michael Russo's Sunday Insider: Projects near completeArticle by: MICHAEL RUSSO , Star Tribune Updated: March 4, 2012 - 1:12 AMThe NHL draft classes of 2010 and '11 boast talent that could supplement the Wild's thin depth as soon as next season. Swede Johan Larsson is among the top Wild prospects who could find themselves in St. Paul, or Houston, next season. There's something to be said for prospects growing together. That's what Anaheim did when Bryan Murray was general manager and Chuck Fletcher, the Wild's now-GM, was his right-hand man.In 2005-06, Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaf and Dustin Penner were thrust jointly into the NHL, and several less-heralded guys began their careers together as well. The Ducks wound up soaring all the way to the conference finals. One year later, they won the Stanley Cup.That's the grand plan in Minnesota as well.Next year, the expectation is that six forwards -- 2010 first-rounders Mikael Granlund and Charlie Coyle, 2010 second-rounders Brett Bulmer, Johan Larsson and Jason Zucker and 2011 first-rounder Zack Phillips -- and potentially one defenseman -- 2011 first-rounder Jonas Brodin -- will turn pro together."The chemistry that's formed and the trust that's built is really neat," Fletcher said. "Not only do they become buddies, but they push each other and become better players because of that competition and that chemistry and those relationships."This summer's development camp and next September's training camp (assuming a collective bargaining agreement is ratified by then) will be exciting.Not every player will make the Wild out of camp. But the expectation is two or three could earn roster spots immediately.Granlund, who has played three years professionally in Finland, has won a league title and a world championship, is a lock. But could Coyle, a huge body who is dominating the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League since leaving Boston University two months ago, be ready? How about Larsson, Team Sweden's captain during its run to a world junior championship in January? Or Brodin, the all-world skater who thrived on the NHL-sized rink during world juniors?It's early, obviously, but it certainly appears as if Wild assistant GM Brent Flahr and his scouting staff hit several home runs the past two drafts.The upcoming Hockey News' Future Watch ranks five Wild prospects in its top-40, including Granlund at No. 2 (Washington's Evgeny Kuznetsov is No. 1), Brodin at No. 12 and Coyle at No. 14What's exciting about next season is whether these players are in Minnesota or Houston, the Wild should finally have depth to be able to survive the loss of top players.The Wild looks like it's heading for a fourth consecutive missed postseason. The No. 1 team in the NHL as of mid-December, the Wild began to derail when it lost top-liners Mikko Koivu, Pierre-Marc Bouchard and Guillaume Latendresse during a 24-hour stretch Dec. 13-14.Koivu will miss his 20th game-and-counting Sunday when the Wild hosts Colorado. Bouchard will miss his 24th consecutive game and 28th of the season. Latendresse has missed 47 of the past 49 games.Early in the season, the Wild was able to overcome injuries to defensemen, goalies and bottom-six forwards. It even withstood the loss of Latendresse for 15 games from Nov. 12-Dec. 10. But three at the same time proved too many.Because there were no adequate top-six fill-ins from Houston, players like Matt Cullen, Kyle Brodziak, Cal Clutterbuck, Darroll Powe and Nick Johnson "got stretched out of positions they were better served in. We got away from our game and have had trouble getting it back," coach Mike Yeo said.But Fletcher said, "The one great thing about next year with all these young players coming into the system, whether they're in the NHL or they start the year in Houston, we should have a lot more offensive talent and a lot more depth available to us."Some may have to go to Houston before they're ready to contribute, but even if they have inconsistencies in their game, they may be able to come up and give you a stretch of games at a high level."Whether that translates to immediate dividends next season, who knows? But the goal is to build a long-term winner in Minnesota by growing these kids together.related contentChart: Wild prospects waiting in the wingsSunday March 4, 2012• Jonas Brodin, Farjestads (Sweden): Defenseman skates magnificently, retrieves pucks quickly and counters instantly. Eight assists, plus-8 in 46 games...The Wild’s week aheadSunday March 4, 2012Sunday: vs. Colorado, 6 p.m. (FSN). Tuesday: at Colorado, 8 p.m. (NBCSN). Thursday: at Phoenix, 8 p.m. (FSN).Player to watch:...more from wild/nhlWild-Colorado game preview Concussions sidetrack Mueller's NHL dreams The Wild’s week ahead 5 comments resize text printbuy reprints shareemail Email shareyour name your email recipients email + add a comment add a comment . More from Star Tribune Know what really makes teachers good? (StarTribune.com) NFL: Saints had bounty program funded by players, in last 3 seasons, to hurt opponents (StarTribune.com) Bloomington suspect in vise case is no stranger to police (Local) Vikings stadium backers go into blitz formation (Politics) Anger over County Road C2 in Roseville still seethes (Local) From Around the Web sponsored links Curiosity: J. O'Sullivan: What are the biggest misconceptions about great white sharks? 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Bear55 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I really love the way the Wild have drafted since Fletcher took over, they seem to have an eye for talent and some of their recent 2nd round moves have looked really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAFly Posted March 4, 2012 Author Share Posted March 4, 2012 No kidding. Before we weren't even getting much out of our 1st rounders. After Bouchard, we really didn't anyone good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archerystud Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Totally Agree!! Barring injuries I bet they will be around a #5 seed in the playoffs. They will make at least one good acquisition in the offseason.One guy I can't figure out is Christensen but I understand why the Wild picked him up. He looks like a heck of a skater and has some great moves and pretty good size. He doesn't have much for points and his +/- isn't very good.I wouldn't mind if the Wild resigned him with a cheaper contract. I'm not really expecting a ton out of him but he has the physical talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YiGGiN4SLoBS Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I tell you what, they better make the playoffs next year because that will be 5 years in a row if they dont and thats embarrising! 8 frickin teams make the playoffs from each conference and u get a point for LOSING in overtime! Youd think they could stumble and bumble and luck their way into the playoffs one of these years.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAFly Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 I don't know about Christensen. I just don't see him do anything impressive. He's not good defensively, that's for sure. Hackett looked good after the two he let in. Sounded like he was a little nervous about his first home start. He settled down nicely though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archerystud Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I haven't seen a ton of him but when I have watched I thought Christensen looked good. However, he probably is a defensive liability out there which would explain his +/- and lack of PT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YiGGiN4SLoBS Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 shut out twice in a row at home????? looks like we're doing a pretty good job of sucking for luck! Is there any way we can convince the other team to maybe play with like a fathead statue of their real goalie in the net??? Could we put the puck past the statue and in the net??? I think maybe we could score on the PP against the fathead... maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear55 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 shut out twice in a row at home????? looks like we're doing a pretty good job of sucking for luck! Is there any way we can convince the other team to maybe play with like a fathead statue of their real goalie in the net??? Could we put the puck past the statue and in the net??? I think maybe we could score on the PP against the fathead... maybe I think the boys realized what some of us have recently, playoff hopes are dead and they are just playing out the season. Koivu wasn't coming back in time to save us and I don't even know if he could have anyway. Butch and Lats were done, we traded 3 veteran D and only got 1 back in return. Everyone kind of knew we were toast and I think the trade deadline brought that to reality for the players.I think it was something we had to do to get better in the future, as much as the fans don' like it this team needed to be retooled in a big way. Many years of bad drafting hurt us bigtime and the effects are what you see the last 3-4 seasons. 2004 to 2008 drafting just killed us, we drafted 35 guys and only 3 of them turned into NHLers for us - Clutterbuck, Scandella, and Kassain who is pretty much a fighter we used a 2nd rounder on. Old management use to give away 2nd and 3rd rounders like candy. It might take more time then we want but this needed to be done, I feel good about our current prospect and for the first time in a long time I think we have a bright future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAFly Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 The worst part is that DR not only gave away picks and blew the ones hid actually had, but he let big names walk into FA for nothing. We should have been getting #1 picks after Gabby had a good season going. Instead he sat on it, Gabby got injured, we got nothing. Rolston was worth a #2, instead we got nothing. Dmitra was worth a #2, we got nothing. It was like DR just didn't care about the future of the team. He was living in the now. IF I were Leopold, I would have lit into him just before firing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear55 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Don't get me started on DR! Think about this one, we used a 2nd rounder on Matt Kassain, now I like the guy by why on earth are you using a 2nd round pick on a fighter who can't score? (save for his 2 goals last week ) If memory serves me right we also gave up 2nd and 3rd rounders to move up a few spots in the first round and take Gillies and Cuma. I'm sick just thinking about it, Gilles scored 14 goals in his draft year. Cuma has had some bad luck with injuries but why give NJ a 3rd round to move up 1 spot, there was plenty of talent available including John Carlson and Tyler Ennis. Between that and drafting guys that couldn't even score in juniors in the later rounds I think a monkey with a dart could have done better drafting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YiGGiN4SLoBS Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Lets night forget about all the players he DID sign and keep with TERRIBLE contracts! DR did his best to screw this franchise rather then make it a winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear55 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Remember when Fletcher took over? We had zero prospects in the system and also had zero cap space. Next year we will have a lot of fresh legs in the AHL and possibly the NHL, oh and 20m in cap space if we feel like going on a spending spree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAFly Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 Honestly, look at what Fletcher did in the 2 years post DR. It was amazing. I actually felt like we had a hockey team. We weren't good, but we were at least getting better. I'm excited to see Granlund play. That kid could be nearly NHL ready next year. He's no 18yo coming out of the juniors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbfenatic Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Too much pressure on these young kids to produce right away, not one of them could carry Parise's jo.. strap at the moment. If we don't get Koivu healthy and replace LTD and PMB with similar skill and experience then we will be singing the "we are just too young" song for a couple years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAFly Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 Wow, this game got out of hand. Our D is just hanging Hackett out to dry. I guess I can't be mad since I want a better pick, but this is a little embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YiGGiN4SLoBS Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 WOW!!!!! A GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!! SETO SCORES ON THE PENALTY SHOT!!!!! ITS A MIRACLE!!!!! AFTER 8 PERIODS THE WILD SCORE A GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archerystud Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 At this point I'm hoping for a better draft position but if it is still mathematically possible to catch Columbus then this team might do it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10,000 Casts Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 outscored 15-1 in the last 3 games... ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAFly Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 Fail for Nail!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear55 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 They are working hard to lock in a top five spot I guess. Its been an ugly few games that is for sure. Anyone else wishing the season was over already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10,000 Casts Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Quote:Fail for Nail!!! lol, I was just going to post that.. Yukupov looks to be alot like Nugent Hopkins only a winger with higher scoring potential, same size and he is tearing it up in the OHL. He gave up a million dollars in Russia to come to the North America. Season Team League GP G A Pts PIM 2009–10 Reaktor Nizhnekamsk MHL 14 4 2 6 26 2010–11 Sarnia Sting OHL 65 49 52 101 71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAFly Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 The fact that he gave up the cash to come here is nice. There's been that stigma about Russian players leaving after the KHL started. I don't think we could get bad enough to get to Columbus' level. That would be a feat. But, Grigorenko looks good too at #2. In 43 games his stats are: 28G 37A +18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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