B-man715 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Hey guys, I've been trying to think outside of the box on ice saws. From what I've read the ice toys saws are the ticket for a hand powered saw.I've just started to brain storm on a powered ice saw. Does anybody manufacture one?If not, I think a reciprocating saw with a long blade with teeth close together could work????? Like antique ice saws, or a logging saw with high tpi. The ice toy saw's teeth are obviously too far apart for this idea to work.Anybody ever try something like this?? And before all of the sparkys chime in I know it can be dangerous mixing electricity and water..........just like mixing a cake or can of paint or blending a margarita.......I would use a double insulated sawzall and a gfi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ1657 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I do not believe anyone manufactures one.I like your line of thinking on this as far as there has to be a better way. I have often tried to think of something like you are explaining but have came up with nothing.The first thing that comes to me is that it may splash alot of water around unless the speed of it was fairly slow. At that point would it be mush less work than a handsaw? I am in no way knocking your idea just throwing out some thoughts.I know some guys like chainsaws. I tried it and all I got was wet.This could be a fun thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-man715 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Yeah, I know its kind of a dumb idea that won't work, but there has to be a better way all of the videos I have seen for hand saws show guys cutting through 3", I can't imagine how long it must take to cut through 3 feet???? I may pick up a cheap saw blade and give it a whirl for $hits and giggles then I can say at least I tried For attaching it to the sawzall I will simply bolt the saw blade to a long sawzall blade and tack into place if necessary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ1657 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 No harm in trying. The hand saws actually aren't to bad even in thick ice. Toughest part with the thick ice is getting the blocks out. To big to pull out with the tongs in one chunk and alot of chips to get out when you bust it up. Hang out with the guys I spear with and you will get alot of practice sawing holes if you know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archerysniper Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 What are you trying to say MJ, I only use one hole all winter. I just have to recut it every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ1657 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 That is true but when we spear in a cattail swamp it doesn't take much sometimes. Just trying to stir the pot a little. Watch out one of the dealers might even post something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 let me know, ill test it for ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOUNCED Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 This is next on the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 makes so much noise thow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOUNCED Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 makes so much noise thow You have a silencer on your auger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassNspear Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 ok, good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-man715 Posted September 16, 2011 Author Share Posted September 16, 2011 Well guys..................... All I could think about today at work was a powered saw. I stopped and bought a regular wood hand saw and basically bolted it to a sawzall blade. Before doing so, I tried it out with hand power on an ice block from the store. It definetly cut the ice, but not with any speed. Next I tried the powered version...................................................................................................................................................................Let's just say if a guy started cutting a hole in January it might be done before spring!!!!!!! LOL Ice is a whole diferent critter than wood or metal. The designer of the Ice Toy saw has it figured out. Long strokes with huge teeth. The small teeth of the wood saw combined with the short strokes of a sawzall would work fine on wood, but plug to easily with ice. I wasn't trying to re-invent the wheel, just wanted to put a motor on it Well I can at least say I tried.............. Now I just gotta find a GIANT sawzall to hook on the end of an Ice Toy SAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ1657 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Nice try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I wasn't trying to re-invent the wheel, just wanted to put a motor on it Well I can at least say I tried.............. Now I just gotta find a GIANT sawzall to hook on the end of an Ice Toy SAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think we all have at one time or another thought of a way to try and power up some sort of ice saw.. heck I even seen drawings for them type of redneck powered up saws thanks you know who you are see ya on the ice until then I'll stick with my Ice Toys Saw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 This is next on the list Timber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ1657 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Behind the head has a set up like that and I seem to recall that he doesn't care for it but I can't remember why. I could be wrong on that all together though. Hopefully he will see this and let us know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindtheHead Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 a chain saw makes a very smooth, shiney hole. like a mirror. the old timers tell me you dont want that. makes fish sit outside of the hole.i have used a chisel to rough up the side of the hole when the ice gets thick.you have to have a really big chain saw too. the one dad has works but it boggs down alot. whem you cut a hole with a chain saw: if theres 24" of ice cut the first 20" first then finish the last 4". if you go all the way through it takes alot more power to move all that water.we also took the bar oil pump out insted of just running the oil tank dry. never get a skim of oil on the hole.grind the rakers off on the chain. not all the way but more than half. if you set the saw down for a second the chain will freeze to the bar.its not that i dont like using the chain saw its less of a mess, dont have to have gas, and less to worry about with a hand saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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