spearchucker Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Anything was better then Mittens. Only he can miss an open net every time.Setagouchi has made a reputation for himself of scoring. He's not Gabby, but he's a definite improvement over mittens. It will be interesting too see if there will be any chemistry between Brunette - Koivu - Setagouchi.Sounds like we are looking to buy out Barker before July 1st. I can only hope this is true. Anyone know how long we'll have him on the books for if we do buy him out? Isn't Bruno a free agent July 1st? He might not be here or am I wrong?I like our draft picks and think the Burns deal will work out in the end. I like Burns, but I got sick of hearing that this is going to be his big year. It never really happened IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsavre Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I'm not sure what the deal wasz with ambroz. He started as a first roundx prospect last year. His stock suretumbled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear55 Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 Yep Bruno is a free agent so who knows if he will be back. Ambroz did fall much further then I thought he would, we should find out this fall if that late pick was warranted or if someone stole him in a late round. I think the NHL teams got scared because he didn't get any better this year and may have plateaued. Also how about little Rau going in the 3rd round, Florida got Grimaldi too so maybe they are going put together a midget line in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrooks Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Bear I will remember your statement on Rocco when UND plays Minnesota this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsavre Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Ill remember too as he gets run over. He needs to change his game a little before hitting the wcha rink. I love the way he plays. But he isn't tough enough to play gritty like he does at the next level. . Not yet anyway. I do give him credit for his toughness though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrooks Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 You'll give him credit when he gets Freshman of the year in the WCHA Face it UND has the cream of the crop for incoming freshman this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAFly Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Spear - My bad, I forgot he was a free agent this year. Will we see a trade to get someone to play with those two? Hopefully we don't give up any young forwards. We need them bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAFly Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Wild traded their 2013 3rd rounder for Darrol Powe.Sounds like he's a good PK/shutdown guy who can play wing/center. Also sounds like he's not afraid to get into corners and play physically too. I like this trade. Really, I like what Fletcher is doing so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsavre Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Fomrmer Princeton player. As long as he is cheap I am OK with it. Made $725,000 this year. Had some decent numbers for a penalty killer. I just hope we dont do typical Wild and try to make him a 2nd liner. 25 years old. 81gp 7gs and 10 assists last year. Apparently gritty and hits alot. Maybe a little like Clutterbuck. Interesting move, not sure what the intentions are now..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear55 Posted June 28, 2011 Author Share Posted June 28, 2011 Bear I will remember your statement on Rocco when UND plays Minnesota this year. Hey I never said he was a bad midget, just a midget. I even want to say some scout on TSN said he would have gone #1 overall if he was 6 feet tall. Maybe the most skilled player in the draft last weekend. I wish he was ours, I also don't have much faith in our D keeping him contained, even with our recent coaching change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spearchucker Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 ]Fomrmer Princeton player. As long as he is cheap I am OK with it. Made $725,000 this year. Had some decent numbers for a penalty killer. I just hope we dont do typical Wild and try to make him a 2nd liner. 25 years old. 81gp 7gs and 10 assists last year. Apparently gritty and hits alot. Maybe a little like Clutterbuck. Interesting move, not sure what the intentions are now..... They will need to replace Kobasew, Madden, and Mittens, so it looks like a start. He scored more than most of our team last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsavre Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Sounds like a good guy to have on the team. Rocco, really notworried about him. Brooks, u guys look like u r about 2 yrs away from being like the gophs program has been for the last 5. Go from top team in the country and get upset. Then you start going after the big prospects who either don't pan out or leave. Then you are stuck with sophmores and juniors with no playing experience. That is if they havnt transfered yet. The only diference is the gophs won 2 titles before their dimise. I was jus giving you a hard time, but now it actually sounds kinda believable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear55 Posted June 28, 2011 Author Share Posted June 28, 2011 ]Sounds like a good guy to have on the team. Rocco, really notworried about him. Brooks, u guys look like u r about 2 yrs away from being like the gophs program has been for the last 5. Go from top team in the country and get upset. Then you start going after the big prospects who either don't pan out or leave. Then you are stuck with sophmores and juniors with no playing experience. That is if they havnt transfered yet. The only diference is the gophs won 2 titles before their dimise. I was jus giving you a hard time, but now it actually sounds kinda believable. You have me convinced! Sioux finish no higher then 6th this year. Grimaldi quits hockey to become a horse jockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsavre Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Horse jockey, you cant pretend that isn't funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OnAFly Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Cam Barker was put on waivers today. We could buy him out for 1/3 his salary and only a third of that would hit our cap (I believe is how it goes).This is a great opportunity for us to shed ~$2.5mil off our books and gain some more flexibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spearchucker Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 This is a great opportunity for us to shed ~$2.5mil off our books and gain some more flexibility. $3.25 mil. We got much more out of Stoner for $575K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrooks Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 You have me convinced! Sioux finish no higher then 6th this year. Grimaldi quits hockey to become a horse jockey. Not funny dude. Not funny at all. Go Sioux Go Jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAFly Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 We still have to pay him ~$500K if we buy him out. We wind up with ~$2.5m in cap room. cbrooks - Your Jets can pick up Barker right now, he's super reliable and only available for a short period of time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spearchucker Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 We still have to pay him ~$500K if we buy him out. We wind up with ~$2.5m in cap room.We have to pay him 1/3 of 3.25mil = 1.08 mil from my understanding. If under 26 you pay 1/3 of the average salary left. I tried finding information on the cap hit, but it involved some formula based on percentages and stuff. Apparently the salary cap hit is over twice the remaining length of the buyout. I think Barker has 1 year left at $3.25 mil so we will buyout at 1.08 mil over 2 years and take a cap hit of something less than that over 2 more years.After some searching, the Strib says it will be a cap hit of $375,000 next season and $541,667 in 2012-13 season. We will save 2.875 mil on this years cap by buying him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear55 Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 After some searching, the Strib says it will be a cap hit of $375,000 next season and $541,667 in 2012-13 season. We will save 2.875 mil on this years cap by buying him out. Works for me, it just keeps getting better and better. Lots of good prospects in the system and plenty of cap space (14M) for the first time in years. No cap space is fine when you are making the playoffs but when you don't make them it gets a little ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAFly Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I think we're getting at the same thing.Either way, hopefully we buy him out and get a little more room. Really, I'd be happy with Craig Leopold pocketing that cash and us floundering in last place for a year so we could get a studly draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear55 Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 I'll take this kid!http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=130572We would really have to suck next year or suck and win the lotto to nab him but he looks like a stud in the making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archerystud Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I think most of the smart hockey people (Can you use smart and hockey in the same sentence?) realize that DR left the organization completely depleted of draft choices and young talent. They also had very little cap room. I agree with OnAFly as I think they are in the right direction.The problem is when you draft 17 year olds which take a few years to develop then it will take a while to rebuild.The only guy that really got hosed in this so far is Richards. I think he should have been given one more year based on the talent he was given. He'll probably get another chance to be a head coach elsewhere, but I think he was kind of made to be the scapegoat here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spearchucker Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 The only guy that really got hosed in this so far is Richards. I think he should have been given one more year based on the talent he was given. He'll probably get another chance to be a head coach elsewhere, but I think he was kind of made to be the scapegoat here. He got hired as an assistant in Columbus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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