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Small Fire in my Portable

peterson999

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peterson999 Apprentice

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I don't know if anyone has ever had this happen to them but... I just got a new MR. Heater 18K BTU for xmas. I had a 20lbs tank attaced to it, and the heater kept going off. I wasn't sure if the hoses were tight enough so I discounted and decided to try the 1lbs to see if the heater was even worked. I was screwing in the 1lbs and all of a sudden a fire started on top of the heater where the tanks are suppose to screw in. Somehow I opened the door and through the heater outside. Once Out side I hit the off button and the fire stopped. Some how I didn't burn anything and I was ok. Has this ever happened to anyone? I am wondering if the heater is default y and IF I should return it to?

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I have been looking into getting one of the Big Buddy heaters and from reading all the threads on here about the pros and cons to them I think I will stick with my Mr. Heater/cooker. There are too many negative things I have been reading about the buddy heaters to want to deal with it just to fish. I like the idea of the safety features on them but I also like to just hook up my hose and tank and get the heat going with no headache of on wondering will it work when I need heat.

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motley man Mentor

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What is it with these buddy heaters? Some say good, some bad. Have heard alot of problems with them, does the company stand behind them on return? Fires, leaks, won't start, won't stay running. Maybe the company should look into recall.

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I don't know if anyone has ever had this happen to them but... I just got a new MR. Heater 18K BTU for xmas. I had a 20lbs tank attaced to it, and the heater kept going off. I wasn't sure if the hoses were tight enough so I discounted and decided to try the 1lbs to see if the heater was even worked. I was screwing in the 1lbs and all of a sudden a fire started on top of the heater where the tanks are suppose to screw in. Somehow I opened the door and through the heater outside. Once Out side I hit the off button and the fire stopped. Some how I didn't burn anything and I was ok. Has this ever happened to anyone? I am wondering if the heater is default y and IF I should return it to?
Maybe you should have extinguished the fire before installing a new fuel source
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I think there was only one fire. I think it wasn't staying lit properly on the 20 lb so he went to the 1 lb and thats when the fire began and he tossed it outside. Thats how I interpeted. I may not be right though. Glad no one was hurt.

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i had a big buddy start my shack on fire last year while my girlfriend and buddy were sleeping inside. it was not fun trying to get out of a shack that was fullkin up in flames. still dont know what caused it if it was the heater the hose or what.

iceman

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I'm glad you are alright. If it is a Buddy style heater or ventless style - the low oxygen shutoff could have been the problem. I have had my regular Buddy go out in my portable many times when I forget to open the vents. I usually leave a little opening behind where I place the heater so it's gets the proper amount of oxygen. It seems the newer heaters are really sensitive which is a good thing.

If the store, won't take it back you will have to send it to Mr. Heater for repair or replacement. It doesn't take much spark with propane in an enclosed area to start a fire.

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Glad you were not hurt.. but am still confused.. Did you put out the original fire before attaching the new gas?

Ya I turned off the main switch on top, and turned the dial to off. The weird thing is the fire was coming out the attachment on the side where the tanks go?

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The Big Buddy has one connection for a hose and two connections for screw in tanks. I am a bit confused as there is no off button on any buddy heaters that I know of as they use a rotary control valve. If you had to turn it off to put out the fire that means the gas valve was turned on while you were changing tanks. Not a good idea. Also in order for a fire to start there must have been a flame burning when you were connecting the tanks with the gas turned on.

With the thermal protection and tip over switch installed the only way I could see this happening is if the twenty lb tank was connected and burning when you tried to connect the disposable tank. Disposable tanks can and will free flow gas on occasion while being connected.

Glad no one was hurt and I am just trying to figure out how this could have happened.

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i had this happen in the deer stand too same thing i found that the problem was i put in the 1lbers n the problem was it was really cold and the one lbers were very cold if not frozen propane in the cannister so the propane leaks out while ur attaching them because they r so cold building up propane all over the buddy heater so once its lit it just jumps to the other propane causing the fire i threw mine out the door 16 ft down into the snowbank walked down picked it up n it was fine after that

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The Big Buddy has one connection for a hose and two connections for screw in tanks. I am a bit confused as there is no off button on any buddy heaters that I know of as they use a rotary control valve. If you had to turn it off to put out the fire that means the gas valve was turned on while you were changing tanks. Not a good idea. Also in order for a fire to start there must have been a flame burning when you were connecting the tanks with the gas turned on.

With the thermal protection and tip over switch installed the only way I could see this happening is if the twenty lb tank was connected and burning when you tried to connect the disposable tank. Disposable tanks can and will free flow gas on occasion while being connected.

Glad no one was hurt and I am just trying to figure out how this could have happened.

Here is the switch that you are unaware of... pic_ex4.jpghttp://www.ipmart.com/contents/products/P141000/141175/extra_pic/pic_ex4.jpg

The 20lbs was disconnected and sitting in my trail blazer.

bcollins, I did have the 1lbs sitting on the ice in the sled. They were most definably really cold. I am still trying to figure out what caused the gas to start on fire.

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Yeah....something isn't adding up here. You don't start a fire without a flame. My guess is, he was screwing in a 1lb on the opposite side while it was still lit. I could be way wrong....but it still doesn't make sense.

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Was posting at the same time as you posted the pic of the on off switch. That is for the FAN...

Well I hit that button, then the fire slowly went out. Maybe I had really cold 1lbs and the pressure built up leaking gas all over the place. Perhaps with the dry air an ESD sparked the fire? It can happen at gas stations.

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Well that button wouldn't do a darn thing unless you had batteries in the unit to make the fan go....and the fan isn't real strong so no likely to blow out a propane fire. Not trying to come off harsh, but your story doesn't add up. I am glad you and no one else got hurt.

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Well that button wouldn't do a darn thing unless you had batteries in the unit to make the fan go....and the fan isn't real strong so no likely to blow out a propane fire. Not trying to come off harsh, but your story doesn't add up. I am glad you and no one else got hurt.

Well obviously the button didn't do anything, the fire stopped because all the gas burned up. The question is what caused the fire to spark. I turned the heater dial to off, and the 20lbs tank was in the trailblazer. Can these heaters light up, if heating elements are still warm?

This is what really confuses me:

*20lbs disconnected and in the trailblazer

*I had the heater perpendicular to the ground screwing in the 1lbs

So a lot of you are assuming I left the heater on. If I had the 20lbs disconnected. Picked up the heater and rotated it to screw in the 1lbs. And the heater was left on on, wouldn't the automatic sensor shut off the heater and not light?

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