yakfisher Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Here's one I just took. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finnbay Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Great shot! I might have brightened it just a bit. I like "Suzie's" expression! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Thiem Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Nice shot. How'd ya get so low to the water for that angle? Looks like the drake was cheatin on his wife and didn't want the popurazzi to bust him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Shutterbug Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Nice capture. At that slow of a shutter speed and that low of an angle, you must have been laying down. Personally, I would have opened the aperture at least a couple stops to give myself a faster shutter speed. However, Suzie and her lover turned out nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Foss Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Hey yakfisher, nice picture. I also like the low angle. Makes for nice intimacy. Did you want C&C on the image or were you just sharing for fun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakfisher Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 C&C is always appreciated. I just did a quick crop of the JPEG, I actually have the image raw, but I am a little slow with photoshop. I was on the bank of a little pond with the camera on a tripod about three feet above the waterline with the aperture wide open and the polarizer filter on. I shot it with a Nikon 70-300VR at 300mm the birds are about 15 yards away. I agree it is a little dark, thanks for the critique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakfisher Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Here is what I did with photoshop on the RAW image. Let me know what you think or would do differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Foss Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 yakfisher, according to the exif data attached to the image, it wasn't shot at a wide open aperture. Exif shows it was shot at 1/50 sec and f10, and that exposure compensation was used to underexpose it 1 2/3 stops. So I'm sure the f10 was what XT was referring to about shooting more wide open. It's nice and sharp at 1/50 off that tripod, and a good job getting down to the same level as the ducks. Since the birds are about the same medium color as the background, however, there was no need for exposure compensation (EC) unless you were trying not to blow out the reflected highlights in the water. If you'd kept EC at zero and aperture at f10, that of course would have slowed the shutter to about 1/15 or 1/20 sec, which would probably have been too slow even off a tripod. But at an EC of zero and aperture opened up to around f5.6, for example, you'd have been back up around 1/50 sec, and and with no - EC the picture would have been brighter and had less digital noise. For some reason I can't find iso in the exif data, so I don't know about that. You brightened it up nicely in the repost, too, and it looks better. I use EXIF Viewer version 2.6, which can be downloaded for free by doing a google search to take you to the site. It's a great tool. Since you shot RAW, however, I imagine your software gives you all that info on the preview screen before you actually open the image. Here's what exifviewer said: File name: LunchwSuzie.jpg File size: 198018 bytes (1136x909, 1.5bpp, 16x) EXIF Summary: 1/50s f/10.0 300mm (35mm eq:450mm) Camera-Specific Properties: Equipment Make: NIKON CORPORATION Camera Model: NIKON D50 Camera Software: Adobe Photoshop Elements 5.0 (20060914.r.77) Windows Maximum Lens Aperture: f/5.7 Sensing Method: One-Chip Color Area Color Filter Array Pattern: 778 Focal Length (35mm Equiv): 450 mm Image-Specific Properties: Image Orientation: Top, Left-Hand Horizontal Resolution: 113 dpi Vertical Resolution: 113 dpi Image Created: 2007:10:10 13:09:06 Exposure Time: 1/50 sec F-Number: f/10.0 Exposure Program: Aperture Priority Exposure Bias: -1.7 EV Metering Mode: Pattern Light Source: Unknown Flash: No Flash Focal Length: 300.00 mm Color Space Information: sRGB Image Width: 1136 Image Height: 909 Rendering: Custom Exposure Mode: Auto White Balance: Auto Scene Capture Type: Standard Gain Control: None Contrast: Normal Saturation: Normal Sharpness: Normal Subject Distance Range: Unknown Other Properties: Resolution Unit: i Chrominance Comp Positioning: Co-Sited Exif IFD Pointer: 252 Compression Scheme: JPEG Compression (Thumbnail) Horizontal Resolution: 72 dpi Vertical Resolution: 72 dpi Resolution Unit: i Offset to JPEG SOI: 922 Bytes of JPEG Data: 8110 Exif Version: 2.21 Image Generated: 2007:10:10 11:14:58 Image Digitized: 2007:10:10 11:14:58 Meaning of Each Comp: Unknown Image Compression Mode: 1 DateTimeOriginal Second Fraction: 00 DateTimeDigitized Second Fraction: 00 File Source: Other Scene Type: Unknown Digital Zoom Ratio: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakfisher Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Your right I just looked at the camera it was set a f10. Earlier while shooting I had thought that I had it set wide open. I must have rolled up the aperture and not noticed it. I used the ec because when reviewing the images on the camera the whites were getting a little blown out. The aperture also explains why a bunch of the other pictures with the ducks moving around were blurry. I had the ISO set to 400. Apparently I was overcompensating a little bit. Thanks for the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Foss Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 No prob, man. I can't count the number of times I bumped a setting and forgot about it or never noticed I did it, not to mention how easy it is to forget to set EC back to zero after a specific shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakfisher Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 So when you are making shots like this on an overcast day what shutter speed would you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Foss Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I leave my iso at 400, the camera on aperture priority mode and set the aperture wide open, letting the shutter speed take care of itself. Unless it's VERY dark, I have enough shutter speed to handhold my 100-400 image stabilized lens and get sharp images of ducks like this, which are moving slowly. Steady technique plays a role, but with a tripod you've got the edge on that. Only if, when I quickly magnify an image or two on the LCD, I find they're not sharp enough, I'll bump up my iso. But my camera allows me to do that in 1/3 stop increments, and I'll only bump it up the minimum I need for sharp images so I avoid digital noise as much as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakfisher Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Thanks again, as always you are a wealth of useful knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Foss Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I live to serve, yakfisher. Be sure to post more of your work for us to enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakfisher Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 You guys should have seen how blurry the images of the flying birds that I took were set at f10. It looked like I was on a merry go round. I do not recommend that aperture with that lens with todays clouds and a moving target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Foss Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Until you get used to smoothly tracking BIF, I recommend at least 1/500 and 1/1000 or better is best. I've gotten sharp BIF stuff at 1/125, but your proportion of keepers shrinks noticeably at slower ss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakfisher Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 When I first got the camera I shot some bicycle races and played around with the aperture and shutter speeds to show some motion. It worked out well, I just need to pay better attention to what I am doing. I guess trying to shout those flying birds today was exciting, kinda like stepping on that first rooster of the season, firing off a few shots and listening to him (and the dog) laugh at you. I'll get em next time. I'll try to get out in a little bit that pond is about 1/4 mile away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Shutterbug Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Quote: I guess trying to shout those flying birds today was exciting, kinda like stepping on that first rooster of the season, firing off a few shots and listening to him (and the dog) laugh at you. I can certainly relate to that. One thing I do before I put my camera away for the day is, make sure the control is set to av and the iso is set at 200. I also shut it down with the aperture at it's widest and the ev at -1. This way, if I come across something unexpectedly, these setting will handle most situations. If not, it won't take much tweaking to get it to where I want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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