Treble Hooks a way to make them legal

[Guest]

Treble hooks are illegal unless used on an artificial lure. I have been doing some thinking and if a plain treble hook is illegal what if you put beeds, a dipbait tube, or a colorado blade on it. Would this constitute as a artificial lure and therefore be legal. I know these things would not be needed for using punch bait but you might be able to fish treble hooks this way.

[Dennis Steele]

A dip bait worm is legal.That is the "lure".
So is a colorado blade if placed within 6",as some one else stated.
In most cases you are not going to need a treble anyway.You can hook up on a single hook just as easy and will do far less damage to the fish.

[vern]

I don't normally use treble hooks, but when I do I just add the same tiny blade that they use on the quick strike rigs for pike. I don't think beads alone will cut it, but the law seems a little unclear on this. Vern

[vern]

Actually, besides a few dip bait worms, the only other time I've used a treble was on a flathead trip 2 years ago. I was getting a few runs and was missing fish. I figured they were small channel cats grabbing the sucker & tearing it off. So just for fun I put a small treble stinger up near the suckers head & ran about 4 inches of line to the main hook eyelet near the tail. Kind of a quick strike rig for cats. It actually worked. I ended up catching a few channel cats on the stinger, but I never tried it again. I just had to find out what was robbing my suckers. By the way, I once caught about a 15 lb muskie on a dip bait worm near Monticello. I didn't expect to see that! Vern

[vern]

It's Minnesota, the land of 10,000 laws. I don't know how strict they are about this one. I'm sure it's up each individual CO to make the call. If you use a treble just put the small blade and maybe a bead in front of the hook eyelet or up the line a bit. It can't hurt and might actually help attract fish if it's spinning in the current. Vern

[Guest]

Land of 10,000 laws you are right on that one. The regulations are so confusing you can do that here but not there, and only from this time to that time, but not an days that end with the letter Y .

[DARK30]

I was told by a CO you could add a piece of colored yarn to the treble and its a lure. Maybe different COs would say something else.

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[Dennis Steele]

I was told by a CO that if you were fishing cats with prepared (dips, punch,stink, etc,)baits that he would not cite you for using a treble.He considered the prepared bait the lure.After all its realy not "live"bait.

[Guest]

I know a single hook will work just fine, but for punch baits a treble hook works best.

It is illegal to use a treble hook by itself but how strict is the DNR on usuing treble hooks. It's not like you can catch three fish on a treble hook anyhow. I do not see why it should count as three lines, but I don't make the rules. It is a grey area, has anyone got a ticket for using treble hooks.

[catfish1]

Guys I was told by co some year ago. The year that law can into effect. That if I was to tie a small piece of yarn on the triple hook and let it dangle out the bottom of the bait. That would make it a lure. And I've ask some sence then and they seem to agree. So I do not have a problem useing them

Catfish1

[Guest]

Thanks for the tip, a pice of yarn, who would of thought, you probally saved me from getting cited.

You would think that if a pice of yarn would make treble hooks legal why would they place a law aginst them in the first place

[Boar]

What if the treble was painted? Would'nt that be an added advantage?

[catfish1]

If they would out law Yarn on a trible hook. They would have to out law some lures for bass, waleyes, northerns, and even some pan fish lures. And you know they well not touch them lures. We as catfishermen are just going to have to get someone in a high office that cares for are needs. Like the use of treble hooks and fishing with one pole. Like fishing with two poles if they are both fished the same way. And the limit on catfish I think the limit on flatheads is one then but channels should be raise. And the use of juging or throw line. I guess I could go on about this but no need. I was raised in Iowa and the law are different there and guess what they still have catfish. Just my two cents.

Catfish1

[Boar]

Boy I feel for you southern river rats with one pole. Up here on the red river of the north, two poles and two hooks on each line if you want. It just dosent seem right, to use only one pole while cat fishing. You're not jiging for walleys or burning blades for pike, theres no doubt you can handle two rods responsibley for cat fish. Canopy Sam and I use four lines in the boat on the Red with two fish on and third thumpin, thats fun. Hope it can change for you guys. Later boar

[cvikes80]

boar,
do you live in the grand forks area?

[Guest]

boar,

evan tough you can fish without all of those restrictions I bet you still have a lot of fish. Not because the fish reproduce well, but becauce your state is ran by some people that have half a brain cell...unlike ours.

If our state was ran better with full use of its recources there is no question in my mind that we would have better fishing. Don't get me wrong the DNR has done a lot for our state, but some of the things they do make it seem that the department would be ran better by a 5 year old child

[Boar]

CVIKES80, yea I'm 40 miles east, RLF. Hey ranger, sorry man did'nt mean to open up that can of worms, what state are you from? I did'nt mean to come off with bragin rights, when a guy has certain opportunities I gusse he takes em. I dont agree with everything this DNR implements either. later boar

[Guest]

boar,

I'm from MN and I didn't mean any hard feelings. I just think that if the MN DNR would devote more of thier energy to stocking lakes, instead of making all those regulations that we would have a lot better fishing.

We would be able to fish with less regulations and still have better fishing than we do now!!!!

[Boar]

Yea I understand totally, it seems the regs book gets thicker every year with what you can't do instead of what you can do. Later, boar

[CANOPY SAM]

Interesting converstaion. Ranger and Boar, you are both living in MN and governed by the same laws. I think Catfish1 is as well - correct me if I'm wrong Catfish.
Only difference is Boar is talking about fishing a "border water". He can sit on the Minnesota side of the Red River of the North and still fish with two lines, but if he travels just a few yards off of the Big Red, and up the Red Lake river in Grand Forks he can now only fish with one because now inland reg's prevail. Fish can easily swim from one river to the next without any obstacles. Strange ruling isn't it!
It's just my opinion, but I think the DNR is doing pretty much all it can considering the massive budget cutbacks it's been handed over the last 25 years. I don't envy their position at all. Can you imagine trying to manage all the land and water in this beautiful state to the satisfaction of everyone using them?
I honestly believe that they could simply loosen some of the regs regarding catfishing simply because there are so few people actually fishing for them. And most of those are just catchin' em' for fun and puttin' em' back anyhow.
Now let's see, how could we loosen those laws a bit? I like the idea of a "painted" treble - painted hooks work great for eye's, why not cats - probably couldn't see the color though down in all that murky water. Two lines - that's a no-brainer! Piece of yarn on the treble - nice! Small, motion activated explosive device with time release scent capsules - oohhhh - now were talkin'! Here kitty kitty kitty....Kaaabooommmmmm!

[Boar]

Time release explosives, hehehehehehe. How about poisoning the wate.... no that's not a good idea.