Final Detroit Series

[genegodawa]

One last football post guys - sorry - just don't want youze guyz to think I'm not able to eat crow, it's just hard to swallow right now!

Friendly,

yeah, every 255 games or so that happens in GB....but I got a funny feeling it could happen sooner than later again.

[buzzsaw]

Here's a fact for Tigers fans to chew on:

• The Tigers' loss coupled with the Yankees' win at Baltimore catapulted New York ahead of Detroit in the race for the American League's best record. The Tigers had owned sole possession of the league's best mark for the previous 112 days (since May 20). Over the past 50 seasons, only one other team slipped from the top spot in its league in a year in which it had sole possession of that distinction for as many consecutive days as Detroit. In 2003, the Braves owned the NL's best record for 131 straight days before relinquishing it in September.

Now I smell a choke coming on....

[RJ]

"Choke comming on"

It took you long enough. We've won 10 of ourlast 32 games! These kids do not know how to close it out. I don't want to sound like I've given up, because all we need to do is start getting the timely hits we were getting earlier in the season, to go along with the still very good pitching. We have pitched very well, with few exceptions in those 32 games. Leyland's comments after yesterday were priceless. "we are either in the outhouse or the castle." Either a strike out or a home run. We do not know how to, or we are not capable of, manufacturing runs like you guys are great at. We have 325 walks this season. There are ten teams in the majors with over 500. We need more 2-0 counts. Seems like we are always 0-2 or at best 1-2. The hitters say they are aggressive. I really think that is why we have not continued to win. Pitchers can get us swinging at bad pitches far too easy. We make pitchers look far better than they arre. Not to knock Boof, but I don't think he is as good as he looked. Our last 17 hitters went down with out even getting close to on base. Bad news for us that Cleveland's best hitter is out for the season. We don't play them any more.

If this doesn't change we will finish in third place. This year has been a huge surprise. I firmly believe this was supposed to happen next year or the year after. We stockpiled pitching for a few years, and started to win before they traded some pitching to improve our everyday line up. Outside of Pudge, we have no all stars playing. Ordonyez, maybee, but he too has had a poor second half, untill the past two weeks. He is our leading RBI guy with 90. We have several guys in the mid twenties in Home runs, but nobody will break 30. Seems like a good line up for "small ball," but they refuse or don't know how.

Anyway, I've enjoyed reading here. You guys are great. I'll stay in touch. Hope we meet in the playoffs. I really have not given up. We just gotta get going.

Rick

[Maximum12]

RJ, you pretty much described the Twins in April. Their hitters were flailing at everything within two feet of the plate. It doesn't take long for the scouts to figure out that your team isn't going to make the pitcher work. Why give somebody something to hit if they're going to swing at dump out of the strike zone?

Detroit's going through the exact same thing. Pressing too hard, trying to hit everything, no patience (see: Morneau 2005).

[Fish_Off]

Chicago White Sox 3rd in MLB with $102.7 million

Minnesota Twins 19th in MLB with $63.3 million

[buzzsaw]

Fishoff with some great info! Sorry Windy, the White Sox have a huge payroll.

[Willy]

Santana was unhittable yesterday. Two hits in 6 and a third with 11K's.

Pretty tough to beat that. Cy-Young all the way. He has dominated in the second half every year and in playoff races.

That series kinda showed the Tig's are reeling while the Twins are surging and might not be able to hold them off for the div. title.

I am pumped. This team is better than the last 3 div. title winners.

[genegodawa]

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Now Sled,

I would not call the Sox payroll huge, if that's what you're doing. The Yankees...yes Boston...yes but the Sox...no. I think they are in the middle somewhere in payroll. Compared to the Cubbies, the Sox are a steal this year with number of wins......

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It would not surprise me, and I said this about 2 or 3 months ago on another post that the Twinks and Sox both pass up the Kitties at the finish line and leave the Kitties crying in their beer. Windy

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Hooooey....looking back, that was a good one Windy.

Yes, the Cubs are a pretty well-paid Last Place team because of Wood and Prior, but the WSox....well they are just an overpaid/lousy THIRD PLACE team.

[SledNeck]

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Fishoff with some great info! Sorry Windy, the White Sox have a huge payroll.

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No, I guess in spin terms its not huge unless its more than the Yankees or Red Sox.

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Buzz,

Since you are going to be my running mate, I figured you better have the correct info. Fishoff was incorrect when he stated that the Sox have the third largest payroll. In fact, they have the fourth largest payroll. The Angels are third, behind the BoSox and Yankees. This is according to USA Today. So the White Sox do not have the largest team salary and they do not have the smallest team salary, I guess that would put them IN THE MIDDLE which is exactly what I said! Remember, I did not have sexual relations with that woman....Monica (you know the line) That's my story and I'm sticking with it. Looks like things should be all beer and skittles up there in the land of 10,000 Lakes eh? Santana is on cruise control, Liriano is coming back Monday and the team is scoring about 9 runs per game avg. I guess everybody is getting in line for playoff tix huh? Looks like the Kitties are hanging on by a thread and Leyland is starting to sweat. Hopefully the Sox can provide enough weight to break that thread (Bobby Jenks should help that situation, with weight, I mean) and we can both pass up the Kitties. Now that would be a huge tank o rama on their part.

Should be interesting, I can't figure out if I am going up the rollercoaster or down, it changes every day. Windy

[Eric Wettschreck]

Beer and Skittles????

I don't care who you are, that was funny.

[genegodawa]

I can't follow ya Windy. Middle = half more and half less.

3rd or 4th highest, depending on how accurate YOUR source is, is nowhere near MIDDLE. More bafflement by the spinmaster, I say. Very glad to see you poke a little fun at ol' Bobby's size though. If he had blown it again, I wonder though.........

40 saves is impressive for such a young flamethrower and he does not deserve to get booed by the hometeam fans just 'cause he blows one once in awhile.

[joe_stack20]

Windy even if the "SUX" are 4th in payroll...out of 30 teams..that puts them in the 86th percentile, in the majors for payroll. How is that even close to being in the Middle....The "Windy Spin" doesnt change this fact! "You can put THAT on the board...YES!!"

[buzzsaw]

What Joe said is pretty accurate

[Willy]

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Windy even if the "SUX" are 4th in payroll...out of 30 teams..that puts them in the 86th percentile, in the majors for payroll. How is that even close to being in the Middle....The "Windy Spin" doesnt change this fact! "You can put THAT on the board...YES!!"

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Pretty simple 2nd grade math really. If you are 4th out of 30 teams, you are at the top, not in the middle.

[Eric Wettschreck]

A spade by any other name still scoops up dog dump.

They're highly paid by comparison to the rest of the league.

[SledNeck]

Now is this opening day roster payroll or current?

[genegodawa]

On opening day, the WSox were tied for last.

Since, they have moved up to 3rd. They musta added some real expensive players to make that big of a move?

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Funny,

I don't hear anybody talking about payrolls anymore!

Or Cubbie wins, or Twinkie wins. How about we talk about Freddy "Boom Boom" Garcia's performance today even though he was totally outshadowed by the return (as brief as it was)of the second greatest pitcher ever to rub up a rosin bag.

Windy

[genegodawa]

Very surprised to see Windy back today-NOT!

Of course he comes back onboard when the WSox win.

"What was Geno thinking?"

Your rollercoaster has not changed to upward yet. Riddle me this o great Carnack Windy: If the Sox win again today and the Twins lose again today, what place will both teams still be in?

PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE.....YES!

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Here's a concept, let's all talk about our FAVORITE team. Mine is the Sox, Buzz is the Twinks, Geno is the, is the, is the ?????

Windy

[genegodawa]

In the AL it is whoever is playing the WSox!!!!!

And I been talking about them for days on end, not like some others who only seem to visit us certain days.

PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE....YES!

(ya jus gotta love my version of the Windmaster's trademark don'tcha?)

[genegodawa]

My favorite NL team is still in last place despite taking the series from the NL West div leaders. Oh well, wait 'till..........

[buzzsaw]

How 'bout them Cubbies?!

[genegodawa]

Nobody likes the "spoilers".