sale of bullheads?

[nitefisher]

can you sell bullheads that you use for catfish bait without a retailers liscence.? or do you need some kind of permit? was wondering because they are a rough fish and i found a place that i can get them by the thousands.

[fiskyknut]

Yes you'd need a permit to sell any type of minnow, or any leeches, wholesale or retail.

fiskyknut

[nitefisher]

were would you get this and what type of permit would you need to buy.?

[fiskyknut]

DNR 'Minnow dealer license' if approved allows harvest and wholesale, costs 310 beans.

[nitefisher]

and that is all i need to sell bullheads? i can get the 7 inchers by the tons.

[fiskyknut]

You need permits for your vehicles used to transport also. Various other 'hoops' to jump thru, restrictions on waters where you can 'take' minnows, etc. Depending where you are you may need local permits for such an operation as well.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Speaking of the sale of bullheads, word on the street is that Moore's Bait and Tackle in South Minneapolis will be starting to sell bullheads in the coming weeks. This will be a great resource for metro cat anglers!

[nitefisher]

i guess im not the only one with the idea. i wonder if you can trade things for bull heads. i need a good 7' cat rod and real would this be legal.

[mplspug]

LOL, I think only cat people like us would barter for bait/gear!

[nitefisher]

i would be very willin if someone is intrested we have 4 fishing licenses thats 400 bullies.

[nitefisher]

would,nt that be fun sorting them for size lots of sore fingers there.

[Guest]

RW is right on Moores selling bullheads soon.

Fisky is right on the licensing, although I am not sure on the price being correct. There are lots of hoops to jump through. I know Minnow licenses range from $27 to $450 depending on which type one would need for what they plan to do ith the minnows. To sell minnows, you need a minnow and retailer license to do so(dont know if there are any other hoops to jump through for private minnow sales to avoid retailer license). Vehicles to transport minnows also need to be licensed through the dnr.

With your fishing license.. your allowed to catch up to 144 bullheads 7" and under by hook and line, dip, or seign net and transport them alive as long as they are obtained in non-restricted water(milfoil, zebra mussels, etc). Any bullheads over 7" is not classified as a minnow and not allowed to be transported alive, and counts towards a daily limit of fish.

Cat rods and reels are pretty cheap.. $20 for a rod(new), and $25 for a reel can usually get something capable of landing some flatheads. It doesnt hurt to ask around, or even on here.. someone might have something laying around that doesnt get used or they *grew out of* that might be sold very reasonably.. maybe even for a trade.

[nitefisher]

ralph would you have the phone number for that bait shop.if you don't want to put it up on here you can email me.

email address [email protected]

[nitefisher]

well i caught 50 in about a 1/2 hour yesterday im going again today for longer will have lots more. thing is i live in starbuck minnesota but would be willin to meet some were 1/2 way if there willin to do some tradeing thats fair.

[nitefisher]

so does that mean that i can go catch 144 today keep them alive and go get 144 the next day? im talking possetion limit included.

[fiskyknut]

Oh well believe as you wish. I have been involved in commercial bait harvest for quite some time, and the info I am providing is based on what I know of the business, and also comes from revision 2 of the most current minnow regulation pamphlet which I recieved this spring.

There are 2 different DNR permits availiable for selling of minnows within the state. The 'minnow dealer' license and the 'minnow retailer' license. The 'minnow dealer' allows harvesting and sale at wholesale, it also allows for retail sales from 1 location. As I stated previously yes it is indeed 310 dollars. The 'minnow retailer' license allows retail sales at an established place of business, not harvest for resale, this license is 47 beans. There are both 'dealer' and 'retail' vehicle licenses, either or are 15 beans.

There are numerous other licenses needed for import/export and such both into and out of the state, both resident and nonresident, but none applied to Nitefishers original question. I know, for a fact, that resident minnow licenses range from 47 to 700 beans, for instance a resident 'exporting minnow dealer' license, the cost on that one is 700 dollars.

Dave you mention with your angling license you are allowed to possess 144 bullheads/minnows, wrong, actually you are allowed 288.....24 dozen with your individual angling license.

Nitefisher, as for trade/bartering here you go from the statutes in my minnow regs booklet......

97A.015 subd.44. SALE 'sale' means an exchange for consideration, and includes barter, offer to sell, and possesion with intent to sell.

May wanna be careful where you mention your intention to trade/barter as it appears you have already broken the law as it is written in the statutes right here on this thread eh!

fiskyknut

[Guest]

Too many licenses available out there. Sounds like the fees have gone up in the last couple years. I believe it was 2 years ago and the export license for minnows was still at about $450.. not $700.. It doesnt surprise me the least bit. I am in no way doubting or condenscending what is stated in your paperwork from the DNR... I didnt expect that much of a hike in the last couple years.

Its starting to make perfect sense why the price on some bait is skyrocketing in the last couple years.

Thank you for clarifying the 288, not 144.. it can hurt to count that many bullheads!

[fiskyknut]

I don't remember it ever being 450, I've never sold outstate and needed one. Permit fee's were jacked up more than just 2 years ago, but no big deal. Fuel cost this year will add to bait price premiums all over. I know a couple of haulers that are no longer gonna bother. I don't feel there are too many licenses, it's all there in black and white, and the resources, especially when it comes down to 'for profit' motives does need its regulating.

fiskyknut

[nitefisher]

i hear and under stand every word you said. there has been no transactions of any kind and there won't be either. i really thank you for letting me know this information. wow the trouble i could have been in thanks thanks thanks. i only have 50 bullies for my own use now and probly will only have that many at a time anyway. now can you tell me what licenses i would have to have in order to do any of what i intended to do.

[nitefisher]

there won't be no tradeing or bartering of any kind till i get the proper paper work. after that i would be more than willing to see what i can do.

[PierBridge]

nitefisher I'm not sure the market is going to be there for you as the water temp warms bullies are pretty easy to catch I would hate to have you spend a lot of money and time and not have the client base to make it worth your while.

fisky needs to go fishing....

[fiskyknut]

Fisky fished Saturday, Monday, and yesterday afternoons. You are correct I need to get out soon! Roseau river gave up some walleye last nite, water is still quite high there but we managed 8 decent fish 630 till dark.

May have to head for a Catfish hole on that little river soon, I've been eating way too many Walleyes lately.

fiskyknut

[Dan Thiem]

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fisky needs to go fishing....

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With me in S.E. Mn.

[nitefisher]

would the licenses i need take care of minnows and leeches to. i can get all by the truck loads.

[nitefisher]

hey heres a question i was asked the other day. in the minnesota fishing regulations hand book on page 54 the third dot down it says that, licensed anglers and children under 16 may take rough fish by spearing, harpooning, archery, and hand held dip nets in all inland waters, except where takeing fish is prohibited. all rough fish, except cisco (tullibee), may be bought and sold. white fish are not considered a rough fish. is it just that 7" and under bullhead are classified as a minnow. because they are a rough fish and can be sold other wise.?