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Hey all, been awhile since I’ve been on but I’m starting another trailer soon.  I’m looking to make something as light as I can(with steel).  Just to haul out on earlier ice and for jumping out for day trips around home.  It’ll double as a trailer back and forth to the cabin in the summer.  Will haul my atv and a little extra gear.  Probably not typically more than 1k lbs but would like it to handle 3.  That being said I’m using 3 inch channel for the frame with a 3x3 tongue that’ll run the length of the trailer.  Curious what others have used for the axle on a lighter trailer.  Instead of stubs I’m thinking a pipe all the way through.  Schedule 80? 2, 2.5 or 3 inches?  Running into issues with most of the steel suppliers around here, nobody seems to want to give any advice anymore, don’t want the liability.

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4 years ago I built a 6.5 x 12 with V front. Started with a 78' Rockwood pop-up 6.5 x 8. It has 3" U channel 11ga. steel except over the axel which is 6" semi U shaped. I exended it to 12' + the 4' V with 3" U 11ga. And a 3x3 square 11ga. down the center. I used a 1.5" solid cold roll shaft full width for axel & 2" DOM tube 1.5" id for pivot. All steel from Winnick, Forest Lake. I designed my own axel using wheel hubs from an 06' Dodge Grand Caravan 2WD rear to allow camber and toe-in adjustment with shims. House frame 2x3 self cut from quality 2x6. Floor bottom 1/2 treated top white plywood. Outside walls 3/8" OSB inside 5mm lauan. Fiberglass insulation except 2x2" 3" pink poly over 6 holes. Furnace, 2 burner stove top, 1 storage cabinet. 20# llp ended at 960 #. Non sleeper bring your own chair to fish. Ended at 1321# with some add on over the years including 2 ton 12v winches for power drop/lift. 

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That’s about the size I’m looking at.  Think that would’ve held 1500 lbs of gear?  I’ll be leaving empty walls inside and will have twin doors on the back.  Not even going to put a pivot on the tongue, will just lower the whole trailer or drop ramps for loading.

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At 1500 pay load l would go with 2" wheel pivot shaft, 2 x 4 tube 1/4" wall wheel hub bar. Also my frame is 4' on center with 2 x 3 wood at 2' center. Put steel where I have wood. Batt fiberglass is very light and insulates nicely getting R13. Will only add 25# and worth it for heat retension. You'll still be under 3000 gross. We put all gear - 2 hubs, 1 flip, 2 or 3 augers, clothes, food etc. In the wheel house except the 4 cases of beer everyone seems to need cause I don't drink. Handles very nice at 70mph.

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    • got this tackled today took about 3 hours to get both sides done. Didnt even get to use a torch....   Thought I was golden with just jacking it up and I could get to everything but no luck. Had to remove the entire axle hub and brake assembly to get to what I needed. Was a pain but still better then taking off the entire pivot arm.    Axle bearings were already greased and in great shape thankfully. Got both leaf springs installed and its ready for the road again.   Probably going to have my electric brakes checked, I am not touching anything with the brake drums. Based on what I saw it doesn't look like my electric brakes have been working anyway. Brakes are nice to have if its slippery out
    • By The way that didn't work either!! Screw it I'll just use the cellular. 
    • It’s done automatically.  You might need an actual person to clear that log in stuff up.   Trash your laptop history if you haven’t tried that already.
    • 😂 yea pretty amazing how b o o b i e s gets flagged, but they can't respond or tell me why I  can't get logged in here on my laptop but I can on my cellular  😪
    • I grilled some brats yesterday, maybe next weekend will the next round...  
    • You got word censored cuz you said        B o o b ies….. haha.   Yeah, no… grilling is on hiatus for a bit.
    • Chicken mine,  melded in Mccormick poultry seasoning for 24 hours.  Grill will get a break till the frigid temps go away!
    • we had some nice weather yesterday and this conundrum was driving me crazy  so I drove up to the house to take another look. I got a bunch of goodies via ups yesterday (cables,  winch ratchet parts, handles, leaf springs etc).   I wanted to make sure the new leaf springs I got fit. I got everything laid out and ready to go. Will be busy this weekend with kids stuff and too cold to fish anyway, but I will try to get back up there again next weekend and get it done. I don't think it will be bad once I get it lifted up.    For anyone in the google verse, the leaf springs are 4 leafs and measure 25 1/4" eye  to eye per Yetti. I didnt want to pay their markup so just got something else comparable rated for the same weight.   I am a first time wheel house owner, this is all new to me. My house didn't come with any handles for the rear cables? I was told this week by someone in the industry that cordless drills do not have enough brake to lower it slow enough and it can damage the cables and the ratchets in the winches.  I put on a handle last night and it is 100% better than using a drill, unfortatenly I found out the hard way lol and will only use the ICNutz to raise the house now.
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